DarkaneRules
9 years ago
Real impressed overall with the majority of our players tonight. Raiders d-line was on fire for sure. There is a lot of talent in that front 7. Elliot was a wrecking ball and constantly in the backfield. He made the team tonight. Another poor showing for Bradford. What to do there...

Tolzien was killing it. The zip on the ball passed the eye test without a doubt. Lacy was great and Harris gets an A+ tonight. He ran hard as hell.

It was pretty obvious tonight that the team is trying to run as many plays as possible to evaluate the talent for the cut down to 53 after this game. No job will be won or lost next game.
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uffda udfa
9 years ago
I want to see what they do with Rolle. He looks to have made it to me.

Bradford and his draft position...yes, it matters... is interesting also. Cutting a precious 4th rounder? Could Ted Thompson stomach that? I truly wonder about the hands our D is in when they draft a guy with the worst measurables for an OLB yet insist on trying him there. Why, why, why? They wasted him at OLB. I was excited about the pick, at the time, because I thought he would play ILB.


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DarkaneRules
9 years ago
I like Rolle too. I hope he makes the team. I am curious how the numbers shake out to allow him to have a spot. Bradford is a mess of a situation. Perhaps he clears and we stick him on the PS. No way would I use a roster spot for that guy.
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uffda udfa
9 years ago

I like Rolle too. I hope he makes the team. I am curious how the numbers shake out to allow him to have a spot. Bradford is a mess of a situation. Perhaps he clears and we stick him on the PS. No way would I use a roster spot for that guy.

Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules 



I wouldn't either...but... we never got to see him at ILB. If we're truly draft and develop he will stick. We've carried guys who have shown less due to draft status than Bradford.

Overall, I'm really disappointed in how our defense is shaping up this season. It's hard to believe but I think we're going to be worse, especially considering Raji is likely finished. The silver lining is this should be it for Dom and the gang. Next year we can clean house and start fresh. My big fear is we're going to suck, again, and, again, injuries will be the excuse and Dom and company will stick around while Aaron's career ticks down.



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steveishere
9 years ago

I wouldn't either...but... we never got to see him at ILB. If we're truly draft and develop he will stick. We've carried guys who have shown less due to draft status than Bradford.

Overall, I'm really disappointed in how our defense is shaping up this season. It's hard to believe but I think we're going to be worse, especially considering Raji is likely finished. The silver lining is this should be it for Dom and the gang. Next year we can clean house and start fresh. My big fear is we're going to suck, again, and, again, injuries will be the excuse and Dom and company will stick around while Aaron's career ticks down.


Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



With how good Peppers is looking and no more Mcmillian/Jennings at S I have a hard time seeing how our D will be worse this year especially if Matthews doesn't miss significant time.
uffda udfa
9 years ago

With how good Peppers is looking and no more Mcmillian/Jennings at S I have a hard time seeing how our D will be worse this year especially if Matthews doesn't miss significant time.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



Who is playing nose? Guion? That guy wasn't retained in Minnesota and their D is soft in the middle without the Williams around anymore. I believe it will be worse... Last year, our DL was pretty good early in the season. Jolly was a big reason why. He's gone...Raji's apparently gone...Pickett is gone. Now, it's the underperforming Datone Jones, undersized Mike Daniels and who? Tell me you feel confident in the DL... I don't.

I have to try and get boarded in the Pennel Kennel. He's my main dog, now. This kid has the weight of the world on him, now. Going into Seattle with no clear idea of who your starting NT is? No idea who your safeties are going to be....who your starting TE is going to be?

Boyd is a player I like but I believe he was at nose last night and was wholly ineffective. Pickett better get in right now... he has 13 days to get himself in shape and probably won't be able to play a whole game if that's who we turn to.
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buckeyepackfan
9 years ago
!st cuts:

45 DOUGHTY, JAKE ILB
43 WHITE, RYAN CB
74 GRAY, CARLOS DE/DT
48 THOMAS, JOE ILB
62 MCCRAY, JORDAN G/T
80 PERILLO, JUSTIN TE
49 HUBBARD, ADRIAN OLB
36 PERKINS, LADARIUS RB
40 MILLER, TANNER S
25 CLAY, CHARLES S
97 ROBINSON, LUTHER DE
41 LIAINA, INA FB
22 HILL, MICHAEL RB
79 FULLINGTON, JOHN OT
9 SHEPPARD, GERRARD WR


2nd cuts: I know some of the players I have listed on PS will not make it through waivers, but thought it would be an easy way of separating them from rest of cuts.

2ND CUTS
35 DENNARD, ANTONIO CB
19 WHITE, MYLES WR
68 TILLER, ANDREW G
60 VUJNOVICH, JEREMY OT
PRACTICE SQUAD WISH LIST
77 ADAMS, AARON T
72 GERHART, GARTH C
91 BRADFORD, CARL OLB
51 PALMER, NATE OLB
20 ROLLE, JUMAL CB
39 GOODSON, DEMETRI CB
32 BANJO, CHRIS S
13 HARPER, CHRIS WR
01 GILLETT, ALEX WR
7 RETTIG, CHASE QB
IR/PUP
67 BARCLAY, DON T/G
46 LYERLA, COLT TE
84 ABBREDERIS, JARED WR
34 NEAL, RAJON RB
98 GUION, LETROY DT
86 BOSTICK, BRANDON TE

FINAL 53: 25 OFFENSE - 25 DEFENSE - 3 SPECIAL TEAMS
EDIT: Just saw where Raji has torn bicep, my bet is Ted is already on the phone to Ryan Pickett, he will take Raji's spot on final 53.
63 LINSLEY, COREY C/G
73 TRETTER, JC C
65 TAYLOR, LANE G
70 LANG, T.J. G
71 SITTON, JOSH G
69 BAKHTIARI, DAVID OT
75 BULAGA, BRYAN OT
78 SHERROD, DEREK OT
10 FLYNN, MATT QB
12 RODGERS, AARON QB
16 TOLZIEN, SCOTT QB
26 HARRIS, DUJUAN RB
27 LACY, EDDIE RB
44 STARKS, JAMES RB
30 KUHN, JOHN FB
81 QUARLESS, ANDREW TE
82 TAYLOR, RYAN TE
85 STONEBURNER, JAKE TE
89 RODGERS, RICHARD TE
87 NELSON, JORDY WR
18 COBB, RANDALL WR
11 BOYKIN, JARRETT WR
17 ADAMS, DAVANTE WR
83 JANIS, JEFF WR
06 DORSEY, KEVIN WR
94 THORNTON, KHYRI DE
95 JONES, DATONE DE
93 BOYD, JOSH DE/DT
64 PENNEL, MIKE DE/DT
76 DANIELS, MIKE DT
90 RAJI, B.J. DT
96 NEAL, MIKE LB/DE
56 PEPPERS, JULIUS LB/DE
50 HAWK, A.J. ILB
57 LATTIMORE, JAMARI ILB
58 BARRINGTON, SAM ILB
59 JONES, BRAD ILB
52 MATHEWS, CLAY OLB
53 PERRY, NICK OLB
55 MULUMBA, ANDY OLB
47 ELLIOT, JAYRONE OLB
31 HOUSE, DAVON CB
37 SHIELDS. SAM CB
38 WILLIAMS, TRAMON CB
24 BUSH, JARRET CB
29 HAYWARD, CASEY CB
33 HYDE, MICAH S/CB
21 CLINTON-DIX, HA HA S
28 RICHARDSON, SEAN S
42 BURNETTE, MORGAN S
02 CROSBY, MASON K
61 GOODE, BRETT LS
08 MASTHAY, TIM P
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steveishere
9 years ago

Who is playing nose? Guion? That guy wasn't retained in Minnesota and their D is soft in the middle without the Williams around anymore. I believe it will be worse... Last year, our DL was pretty good early in the season. Jolly was a big reason why. He's gone...Raji's apparently gone...Pickett is gone. Now, it's the underperforming Datone Jones, undersized Mike Daniels and who? Tell me you feel confident in the DL... I don't.

I have to try and get boarded in the Pennel Kennel. He's my main dog, now. This kid has the weight of the world on him, now. Going into Seattle with no clear idea of who your starting NT is? No idea who your safeties are going to be....who your starting TE is going to be?

Boyd is a player I like but I believe he was at nose last night and was wholly ineffective. Pickett better get in right now... he has 13 days to get himself in shape and probably won't be able to play a whole game if that's who we turn to.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



Well someone on the line was effective last night considering they dominated the other offensive line. Even on MJDs big run Datone Jones had a great push and it should have ended in no more than a couple yard gain. Who is the NT going to be? No idea but I'm not convinced that a defense - Raji/Jennings and + Matthews/Peppers/Hyde = worse. Especially considering how dreadful Raji was last year. Raji had looked pretty good so far this year but compared to last years NTs Boyd or Pennell would ahve to be a heck of a lot worse than "ineffective" to be as bad as the play we had at that position last year.
uffda udfa
9 years ago

Well someone on the line was effective last night considering they dominated the other offensive line. Even on MJDs big run Datone Jones had a great push and it should have ended in no more than a couple yard gain. Who is the NT going to be? No idea but I'm not convinced that a defense - Raji/Jennings and + Matthews/Peppers/Hyde = worse. Especially considering how dreadful Raji was last year. Raji had looked pretty good so far this year but compared to last years NTs Boyd or Pennell would ahve to be a heck of a lot worse than "ineffective" to be as bad as the play we had at that position last year.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



Yes, Raji was terrible last year. He was at DE where he didn't want to be. A player in the wrong frame of mind isn't going to produce like one who is. He got moved back where he wanted to be and was playing on a one year deal to prove himself and he was. I didn't want to bring him back but felt he was some insurance when we did. Then, he played so well that I was glad he was back, only to see him be done before one real game.

You are talking about Matthews and Peppers. I'm talking about the DL. Daniels, Jones and ???? Honestly, that's incredibly underwhelming. You're level headed and can't be too excited about the prospects for our DL this season. Thornton looks to be another defensive...BUST. Just way too many busts on D to be competitive there. We're counting on Datone Jones who has been pedestrian, at best, as one of our starters. I love Mike Daniels but don't feel too good about him as an every down player. Teams are going to run on us in the 1st through 3rd quarters like they did in the 4th last season.

On the bright side it will be like watching NBA basketball...up and down back and forth...us scoring and getting scored on... a lot. Start all your Packer FF guys and any who play against our defense. You can't lose.


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steveishere
9 years ago

Yes, Raji was terrible last year. He was at DE where he didn't want to be. A player in the wrong frame of mind isn't going to produce like one who is. He got moved back where he wanted to be and was playing on a one year deal to prove himself and he was. I didn't want to bring him back but felt he was some insurance when we did. Then, he played so well that I was glad he was back, only to see him be done before one real game.

You are talking about Matthews and Peppers. I'm talking about the DL. Daniels, Jones and ???? Honestly, that's incredibly underwhelming. You're level headed and can't be too excited about the prospects for our DL this season. Thornton looks to be another defensive...BUST. Just way too many busts on D to be competitive there. We're counting on Datone Jones who has been pedestrian, at best, as one of our starters. I love Mike Daniels but don't feel too good about him as an every down player. Teams are going to run on us in the 1st through 3rd quarters like they did in the 4th last season.

On the bright side it will be like watching NBA basketball...up and down back and forth...us scoring and getting scored on... a lot. Start all your Packer FF guys and any who play against our defense. You can't lose.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



I'm talking about Matthews and Peppers because they make our defense significantly better than it was last year. Pickett, Jolly, and Raji were all really bad last year. Jolly had like 1 or 2 good games then the rest of the season he was still bad. Losing Raji now probably makes our defense worse than it was going to be with him this year but I still don't see the D as a whole being worse than last year Raji or no Raji. Jones and Daniels at least in preseason have looked a hell of a lot better than the other 3 I mentioned looked in the Reg season last year.
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