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Offline nerdmann  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, August 27, 2014 3:18:57 PM(UTC)
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Michael David Smith wrote:
Last year Packers running back Eddie Lacy started his rookie season slowly but finished as one of the best backs in football. This year, the Packers think he can be the best back in football. Packers running backs coach Sam Gash says there's no question that Lacy can lead the league in rushing, and Gash...


Place your bets, gentlemen.
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#2 Posted : Wednesday, August 27, 2014 5:06:30 PM(UTC)
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Well, I think he could. But things would have to fall in place for that to happen.
And losing anymore o-linemen would pretty much kill that idea.
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Offline Gilligan  
#3 Posted : Wednesday, August 27, 2014 5:48:46 PM(UTC)
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#4 Posted : Wednesday, August 27, 2014 5:53:25 PM(UTC)
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Who the hell wants Eddie to lead the league in rushing? We have a three headed monster at rb, use them all and save on all their bodies.
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Offline sschind  
#5 Posted : Wednesday, August 27, 2014 6:08:16 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
Who the hell wants Eddie to lead the league in rushing? We have a three headed monster at rb, use them all and save on all their bodies.


We have a three headed monster but Mike doesn't like to use it. I think most of us would like to see it but I'm guessing the carries will be skewed more toward Lacy than most of us would care to see. Starks and Harris will get their chances but I bet Lacy still averages over 20 touches per game


Still, like Gillgan says I think he can but I don't think he will. We don't rely on him as much as some other teams rely on their studs running backs. My early money is on Charles with Peterson a close second. Forte is possible but the Bears are like the Packers in that they pass too much and McCoy may lead in total yards but he will get a lot more yards receiving.
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#6 Posted : Wednesday, August 27, 2014 7:43:05 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: sschind Go to Quoted Post
We have a three headed monster but Mike doesn't like to use it. I think most of us would like to see it but I'm guessing the carries will be skewed more toward Lacy than most of us would care to see. Starks and Harris will get their chances but I bet Lacy still averages over 20 touches per game


Still, like Gillgan says I think he can but I don't think he will. We don't rely on him as much as some other teams rely on their studs running backs. My early money is on Charles with Peterson a close second. Forte is possible but the Bears are like the Packers in that they pass too much and McCoy may lead in total yards but he will get a lot more yards receiving.


Mike and Aaron will be stat whoring too much to focus on the run game. Burns too much clock, doesn't let them take as many shots deep.

Kind of excited to see what DuJuan Harris brings on screens though, if they ever choose to run any. Dude is fast, shifty and explosive.
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Offline DarkaneRules  
#7 Posted : Wednesday, August 27, 2014 8:46:07 PM(UTC)
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I don't bet.

I just know two things. Aaron Rodgers is a great quarterback and Eddie Lacy is a great running back. They are both capable of great things. Who cares about numbers or stats. Just win. And I think they will.
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Offline steveishere  
#8 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2014 3:46:19 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nerdmann Go to Quoted Post
Mike and Aaron will be stat whoring too much to focus on the run game. Burns too much clock, doesn't let them take as many shots deep.

Kind of excited to see what DuJuan Harris brings on screens though, if they ever choose to run any. Dude is fast, shifty and explosive.


That doesn't make any sense. Over the last 2 years at least Mike has run the ball a lot. Also running is a big part of how they set up their deep passes, which obviously works considering they've been one of the most efficient deep ball teams for years. The play action rollout deep shot is one of the most effective plays we run. Throwing it deep isn't "stat whoring" if it works, it's "winning".
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Offline mi_keys  
#9 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2014 4:43:39 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
Who the hell wants Eddie to lead the league in rushing? We have a three headed monster at rb, use them all and save on all their bodies.


I do... but because I want Lacy to average 13 yards a carry. Just like I want Rodgers to lead the league in passing from averaging 27 yards a throw. Neither will happen.

With the stable of backs we have, I would like to see us top 5 in team rushing and pushing for the league lead in yards per attempt. That could conceivably happen. We were 7th and 4th last year respectively.
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Offline buckeyepackfan  
#10 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2014 7:37:08 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nerdmann Go to Quoted Post
Mike and Aaron will be stat whoring too much to focus on the run game. Burns too much clock, doesn't let them take as many shots deep.

Kind of excited to see what DuJuan Harris brings on screens though, if they ever choose to run any. Dude is fast, shifty and explosive.


Did you watch the game from last Thursday?

1st drive, 7 plays 80+ yards, 3:06, 1 pass - 6 runs.

I guess Lacy should have laid down a couple of times instead of rolling over the defense so The Packers could take more time off the clock.

Or maybe Rodgers(the tight end), should have just caught the ball on the one pass attempt and just fell down after he got the 1st down yardage.

BTW short pass over the middle he broke for 32 yds.

Another year of this stat-whoring bullshit, I guess it never gets old for some.
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Offline nyrpack  
#11 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2014 8:28:58 AM(UTC)
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i dont think lacy will lead the league in yardage, he is a great runner but the problem is a guy named aaron, the pack are a passing team 1st, teams that cant throw are more apted to run, thats not the pack, ill be happy with lacy around 1300 and aaron over 4000 !!
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Offline nerdmann  
#12 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2014 1:45:29 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan Go to Quoted Post
Did you watch the game from last Thursday?

1st drive, 7 plays 80+ yards, 3:06, 1 pass - 6 runs.

I guess Lacy should have laid down a couple of times instead of rolling over the defense so The Packers could take more time off the clock.

Or maybe Rodgers(the tight end), should have just caught the ball on the one pass attempt and just fell down after he got the 1st down yardage.

BTW short pass over the middle he broke for 32 yds.

Another year of this stat-whoring bullshit, I guess it never gets old for some.


lol well you're in the minority.

Everyone else says the Packers will pass more than they run. I guess we'll see starting next Thursday!
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Offline buckeyepackfan  
#13 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2014 2:35:14 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nerdmann Go to Quoted Post
lol well you're in the minority.

Everyone else says the Packers will pass more than they run. I guess we'll see starting next Thursday!


So if Lacy carries the ball 25 times for say 125yds, and Aaron is say 25-30 for 300 yds, you are going to be pissed because They ran 5 more pass plays than run plays?

Is that Stat-whoring?

BTW That is only 55 plays.

The goal is 75 plays a game, I don't give a damn what the ratio is, if they hit their target, there's a damn good chance The Packers are going to win the game.

For the 1st time since Ryan Grant was in his prime The Packers have viable options at QB, WR, and RB.

I'm gonna enjoy watching this team, not worry about the pass/rush ratio.
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Offline bozz_2006  
#14 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2014 6:50:37 PM(UTC)
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my friend, sports writer and editor of a city newspaper says, "Did he ever even lead the SEC?" Nope, I don't think so. But definitely stay focused on what he did or didn't do years ago, i'm gonna watch him tear it up!
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Offline DakotaT  
#15 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2014 7:08:56 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan Go to Quoted Post
So if Lacy carries the ball 25 times for say 125yds, and Aaron is say 25-30 for 300 yds, you are going to be pissed because They ran 5 more pass plays than run plays?

Is that Stat-whoring?

BTW That is only 55 plays.

The goal is 75 plays a game, I don't give a damn what the ratio is, if they hit their target, there's a damn good chance The Packers are going to win the game.

For the 1st time since Ryan Grant was in his prime The Packers have viable options at QB, WR, and RB.

I'm gonna enjoy watching this team, not worry about the pass/rush ratio.


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#16 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2014 10:54:15 PM(UTC)
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In a pass first offense - not likely. I hope this isn't a challenge within the team to set silly records. I don't care if we get our yards on the ground or through the air - as long as the chains keep moving. Reaching new individual achievements - great, but championships are even better.

I like knowing that we have three quality RBs and I hope they all see the field to keep the trio fresh and healthy.
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Offline sschind  
#17 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2014 7:25:17 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: hardrocker950 Go to Quoted Post
In a pass first offense - not likely. I hope this isn't a challenge within the team to set silly records. I don't care if we get our yards on the ground or through the air - as long as the chains keep moving. Reaching new individual achievements - great, but championships are even better.

I like knowing that we have three quality RBs and I hope they all see the field to keep the trio fresh and healthy.



I don't think it is a challenge or any sort of indication that the offensive strategy will change at all. All it was was a comment indicating that whoever said it (I'm not even sure who did, all headlines I saw simply said coaches) thinks Lacy has the talent and the ability, if he were to be given the chance, to lead the league in rushing. I happen to agree with him. I also happen to think that probably any one of 15 or 20 RBs could lead the league in rushing if their team was hell bent on making it happen. In a lot of ways leading the league is as much a team decision and a team accomplishment as an individual one. Guys like Peterson or Charles or McCoy probably wouldn't have as many yards if they had had the Packers passing game. I mean just look at the vikings and the Chiefs passing game over the careers of Peterson and Charles. If you said "what passing game" you get a cookie, it is in the mail. Philadelphia may have been a bit more suited to throwing the ball but even they had their limitations (their QB couldn't pass even though he thought he could) .

If you have a RB like Lacy, and to a lesser extent Harris and Starks and you don't use them it would be flat out stupid. It only makes your entire offense better. However, this was, is and always will be Aaron Rodgers' team and he will lead the team in stats. Some people might mistakenly call this stat whoring but what do they know. Stat whoring is leaving your QB in to throw his 5th TD pass when you are up by 35 points with 4 minutes left to go in the game. It is not going deep down field on a third and 1 from your own 35 midway through the first quarter when the score is tied at 7 all. While this may be frustrating at times it is not stat whoring, it is called a game plan I wonder if the Packers decided to give Lacy the ball 30 times a game and he gained 1800 yards would some people be saying that he was stat whoring? Probably, there is no pleasing some people. Anyway, using Lacy more doesn't mean the Packers are turning into a run first team. Heck, even if they run more than they pass I wouldn't call them a run first team because this team will live and die by Rodgers and the pass. Lacy may get 1200-1300 yards and 10-12 TDs but people will always look at what Rodgers did first and teams will always fear Rodgers more. Of course the improved running game will be a big part of that fear.

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Offline Cheesey  
#18 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2014 1:31:04 PM(UTC)
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Just having that option, of a supurb RB, takes a load of pressure off of the passing game. Defenses can't just pin their ears back and rush the passer.
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#19 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2014 9:37:47 PM(UTC)
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Operation Red Herring is in effect.

Phase 1. Hype the running game. Make the Seahawks think we are setting rushing goals.

Phase 2. Run the crap out of the ball with the first string O. in preseason. Don't bother throwing it. Just run it 6 or 8 times and get a TD. Make sure the nation sees the Packers as a RUN FIRST team.

Phase 3. Show up at the Seahawks and play action them to death.

When they figure it out, and pull the safeties back into coverage, drop the Hulk on them.

Here comes the boom.
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