wpr
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9 years ago



Sounds like another change in how to define "elite"... like I said in the start that changing of how each defines that, make it's very hard to debate because most define it differently.

Are you talking about the playoffs? If no, then that's not completely true without adding they get schedule to play each other in the following year... which in the following year they might be a completely different team... like the Panthers and are very different than last year and that's where that logic falls apart.

Also falls apart in a team like the Cowboys who didn't finish 1st in their divsion last year and now people are asking if they're elite or not.

Originally Posted by: beast 



As I said, Define elite any way you so desire. I assure people will have different opinions. And yet they will still debate it.

Playoffs? No I am talking about the regular season. First place teams will face each other. An argument can be made for the possibility of a 15-1 team not playing anyone of quality but that is not the normal scenario. An argument can be made that every quality team from last year, for one reason or another, falls flat one their face the next year but that too is not the norm.

Winning a division or making the playoffs, like the Panthers did doesn't make them elite. One of the reasons record alone should not determine if a team is elite of not is the softer schedule some teams get. It wasn't that long ago that Atlanta and the Bears both made it to the SB because of soft schedules. Both lost. Both had stronger schedules the following year and both disappeared back into the pack. Even though they were in the SB neither team was elite.

SF and Seattle have their issues but that doesn't preclude them from being elite either.
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Pack93z
9 years ago
The Packers have the ability (talent) to be among the elites in this league.. but they lack the consistency to be labeled an elite. It is as simply as that as a team..
If the team got hot near the end.. I think they can play with anyone and make the run to a SB. But week to week.. even within games.. we see a team that is up and down with consistency in several facets of the game. Running & Defense as a whole come to mind. Offensive line play as well.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
warhawk
9 years ago

The Packers have the ability (talent) to be among the elites in this league.. but they lack the consistency to be labeled an elite. It is as simply as that as a team..
If the team got hot near the end.. I think they can play with anyone and make the run to a SB. But week to week.. even within games.. we see a team that is up and down with consistency in several facets of the game. Running & Defense as a whole come to mind. Offensive line play as well.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 


I see it a little different Z. They started out inconsistent but have progressed very nicely the last several games. I think the Dline had some issues early and just having a new philosophy on D took some time to come together. With as little experience on the front and how they used Peppers, etc., looking back it makes sense that they would struggle early. The point is they have improved a lot since the first few games.

Huge game Sunday. Going into the bye 6-2 is big. The second half of the season we play all the tough teams at homes and have 3 of the easiest away games you can get in this league.

Don't count this team out of being at the top of the heap in the NFC when the dust clears. I like their chances actually. The West is beating the crap out of each other and the South sucks. So if it comes down to Romo and the Boys or us I take us.





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beast
9 years ago

I am talking about the regular season. First place teams will face each other.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



1st place teams from the year before face each other in this years regular season, yes that's true, but that doesn't mean 1st place teams from this year (other than when it's set up to face the whole division).

For example currently the only 1st place teams the Packers have on their schedule are the Panthers and Patriots and that's only because we have to face their whole divisions.





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wpr
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9 years ago

1st place teams from the year before face each other in this years regular season, yes that's true, but that doesn't mean 1st place teams from this year (other than when it's set up to face the whole division).

For example currently the only 1st place teams the Packers have on their schedule are the Panthers and Patriots and that's only because we have to face their whole divisions.




Originally Posted by: beast 



Sarcastic reply- NOOOOOOOO. Really? I guess you taught me something new. I am so amazed.


Actual reply- Yes I know. This year's teams in first place after 7 weeks is not the whole NFL world. Teams who are in first place at the end of one season can actually be in first place the following year too.
To make your point your sample size is way too small.
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Zero2Cool
9 years ago
Since when can an elite team have a loss with less than games played?

I just killed the thread.

Yeah, I did that.


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beast
9 years ago

Teams who are in first place at the end of one season can actually be in first place the following year too.
To make your point your sample size is way too small.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



I never said they couldn't... and the sample size in this case doesn't matter as I'm not looking for the average or normal... just showing that your statement isn't always true.



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wpr
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9 years ago

I never said they couldn't... and the sample size in this case doesn't matter as I'm not looking for the average or normal... just showing that your statement isn't always true.


Originally Posted by: beast 



Unless you are the Lord Almighty nobody's statement is absolutely correct for every single variable imaginable.

R-E-L-L-A-X!
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gbguy20
9 years ago
you spelled relax wrong
yooperfan
9 years ago

you spelled relax wrong

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



Isn't there a rule against pointing out other peoples misspellings?😆

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