D=Exposed 2014 Week 14· Page 5

warhawk
Senior Member

9 years ago

The pass defense has been decent all year long. Last night in the 2nd half it was not. I'm not going to get all freaked out and think that out of the blue this team cannot all of a sudden do a good job against the pass.
I am somewhat puzzled that Capers changed the coverage when what they were doing in the first half was getting the job done. I understand that teams routinely go into this mode when they have a huge lead but either they need to get better at that or forget about it.
I've never been a big fan of soft zone coverage anyhow and when you ask your guys to play that against a team with the kind of talent in the passing game the Falcons have it just invites misery. I will say though that Capers saw Williams get torched on the first series of the second half and that probably definitely entered into what Capers thought they needed to do.

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QCHuskerFan
Member

9 years ago

#42

QC,

What are we as casual fans allowed to do? Talk exclusivity about the victory? The Offense?

The offense in the first half was outstanding.
Jordy fantastic.
Aaron is the MVP and going into the HoF at this rate.

Ok it's done. now what?

It is not unusual or wrong or even disrespectful for fans to talk about the areas of the team that they would like to see improve. As you point out there are no perfect teams so they is always going to be room to discuss the things we have concern over. No one will ever change that.

I don't want you to stop saying what you say because it would be a pretty boring world if we agreed on every thing all the time.

Originally Posted by: wpr

This is a thread with 3 pages of complaining and whining about the D. If I started a thread dedicated to enjoying the victory, would 3 people even post on it? Would 1? If we started a thread focused on the play of the OL, would it last 4 posts before someone bitched about Campen?

The Defense was fairly stout yesterday until the game was out of reach. (So we thought!) Then it got ugly. But some credit goes to the Falcons. They came out hard in the second half and put the Packers on their heels. Does that mean Capers sucks? No. It means the Falcons are pros also and came out hard in the 2nd half.

We have so much goodness to embrace. We may never have another QB in the league as great as ARod. Odds are certainly against us ever having one in GB again. So we spend his best years complaining about what might have been? Didn't we win? Aren't we the odds on favorite for the #1 seed? So why is there such a feeling of despair? This same shitty Defense has won us 10 games this year.

If someone spends the entire season whining about the Defense, if we lose the Super Bowl 36-35, do they get to gloat all winter because they were right? Who will be happier: Me because the team I embrace did extremely well or them because they were right and the team they love to criticize lost in the way they predicted?

AM 670 the Score is based out of Chicago. I used to enjoy listening to it to hear Bears/ Cubs fans whining. It's not as much fun anymore. It's too much like listening to many Packer fans.

Our glass is 85% full. Why do some have to spend all of our time bitching about the 15%?

buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#43

Musccy,

This is not the best Defense in the league. It is the #18 scoring defense. It is the Defense of a team that has gone 9-1 in their last 10 games. It is the same D that held the Patriots below their, at the time, league leading scoring offense just last week. It is what it is. Average, but supplemented by a tremendous offense.

But before we discuss any more of it's flaws, lets discuss the perfect teams in the league. Let's start with, um, well, the Patriots? Wait, we just beat them. So the, uh, Seahawks. Wait, they've lost more games than the Pack and have no receiving threat. Well, crud. Is there no perfect team?

This has the making of a special season. One that might end in not making the playoffs. Or maybe a first rd exit. Or possibly even a Super Bowl title. Does everyone really want to spend the season complaining about things we don't understand or control? Life is short. Enjoy the trip. Don't focus on the potholes.

Originally Posted by: QCHuskerFan

Not everyone!!!

[grin1]

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hardrocker950
Member

9 years ago

#44

Our glass is 85% full. Why do some have to spend all of our time bitching about the 15%?

Originally Posted by: QCHuskerFan

Because that 15% is what often wins and loses championships.

wpr
Preferred Member

9 years ago

#45

Originally Posted by: QCHuskerFan

I would like to see you try and start the threads. Sounds like a great idea. Don't get frustrated if when the first first or even the hundredth complaint. I can tell you now it will happen. That is human nature. You will never change it.

The Defense was fairly stout yesterday until the game was out of reach. (So we thought!) Then it got ugly. But some credit goes to the Falcons. They came out hard in the second half and put the Packers on their heels. Does that mean Capers sucks? No. It means the Falcons are pros also and came out hard in the 2nd half.

Once again it is not unheard of in many areas of society for people to think we failed instead of the other guys succeeded. Nerdmann likes to think it is GB shitting themselves even if it ain't so. comme ci comme ça.

We have so much goodness to embrace.
We may never have another QB in the league as great as ARod. Odds are certainly against us ever having one in GB again.
So we spend his best years complaining about what might have been?
Didn't we win?
Aren't we the odds on favorite for the #1 seed? So why is there such a feeling of despair?
This same shitty Defense has won us 10 games this year.

yes we do. Talking about and wishing the areas of weakness were improved does not preclude enjoying the success too.
True.
Many of the complaints come from the fact that fans would like to see Aaron have greater support. Both in other areas of the offense, mainly the OL and in most portions of the defense.
I am not sure GB is the odds on favorite. They are not in first. That treats AZ in the same light you dislike people to view the Packers. After all they have won the same number of games.
Not so. This defense has changed many times over the season. Different personnel. Different schemes. Different effort from game to game. Even the weather is different.

If someone spends the entire season whining about the Defense, if we lose the Super Bowl 36-35, do they get to gloat all winter because they were right? Who will be happier: Me because the team I embrace did extremely well or them because they were right and the team they love to criticize lost in the way they predicted?

nope.
I don't see anyone deriving pleasure from a loss.

AM 670 the Score is based out of Chicago. I used to enjoy listening to it to hear Bears/ Cubs fans whining. It's not as much fun anymore. It's too much like listening to many Packer fans.

I find the SCORE hard to take but mainly from the hosts more than the fans.

Our glass is 85% full. Why do some have to spend all of our time bitching about the 15%?

Tell me it is wrong to want a 85% team to be a 90% or 95% team? BUT they are not at 85%. The offense is about 90% and the defense is about 60% ST teams at 70%. In told they are about 70-75% as a whole.

mi_keys
Senior Member

9 years ago

#46

Silver lining on the defensive performance: they held Jackson to a 3.1 yards per carry average.

Born and bred a cheesehead

nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

#47

Originally Posted by: wpr

Actually I differentiate between the two more clearly than anyone. It just seems to be that 80%+ of the time, it's us shitting ourselves.

How many times have players like Clay come out and said, WE BEAT OURSELVES. Well, it's true.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

RaiderPride
Senior Member

9 years ago

#48

Last time I looked at the scores from last weekend, the Packers won. The actual final score, is not worth a hill of beans 6 days after the game ended. The final score, yards given up, and all that shit then becomes a stat that no one really looks at except Vegas odds makers.

I have never seen so much Bitching from a fan base of a team that is about to win a Super Bowl.

""People Will Probably Never Remember What You Said, And May Never Remember What You Did. However, People Will Always Remember How You Made Them Feel."

DakotaT
Select Member

9 years ago

#49

Being the spoiled fans that we are, we have come to expect a certain level of play. Giving up all that garbage the an inferior team on Monday Night Football doesn't sit well with some of us. That said, this defense is our built in excuse if we shit ourselves. I think they are going to step up in the playoffs this year, but they sure can look miserable at times.

TheKanataThrilla
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#50

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

I agree with this. Except will say 95% of the time the built in excuse of the defense is the reason why we lose. Sometimes our offense gets too cute and shits itself to. Case in point the last playoff game against the niners our last scoring drive that only resulted in a FG. I'm still trying to figure out what the hell Mike McCarthy was thinking.

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