DakotaT
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9 years ago
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For all you saying Watt was the MVP, whatever! 🙄
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9 years ago

http://pck.rs/1syUgyA

For all you saying Watt was the MVP, whatever! 🙄

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



This is not the real NFL MVP vote...this is like winning the NIT basketball tournament.

The legit award MVP won't be announced until after the SB, at least that's the way it usually works.


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buckeyepackfan
9 years ago
Stat-whore!

😆 😆

Congrats to Aaron, well deserved, I'm betting he is more focused on getting The Packers to another SB.

Not worried about individual awards.
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sschind
9 years ago
since 1975 when they started doing the sports writers award there have only been 6 years in which the same player didn't win both awards. Most interesting to me was in 2003 when the AP award was split between Manning and McNair but the other award went to Jamal Lewis.

Generally the AP award is considered the more prestigious and the "official" MVP award. When you hear 3 time NFL MVP Brett Favre its the AP one they are talking about as Favre only won the Sportswriters MVP 2 times (Lost it to Sanders the year they shared the AP award) Pretty much the only time you hear anyone talk about the sports writers one is during this 2-3 week stretch between now and when the AP award is given out. After that its crickets for the next 50 weeks or so.
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9 years ago
Beating Detroit and Dallas on one leg pretty much cinched winning the award.
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sschind
9 years ago

Beating Detroit and Dallas on one leg pretty much cinched winning the award.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



except that ballots are due in before the playoffs start I believe so the Dallas game wouldn't matter. I agree with the Detroit one though. Even though it really didn't show his value it showed his heart and his determination and I think that might sway a few voters.

TheKanataThrilla
9 years ago

Even though it really didn't show his value it showed his heart and his determination and I think that might sway a few voters.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



I think it showed his value. He was out for a couple of series and Detroit came back. Rodgers comes back in although gimpy and we roll to victory.

Zero2Cool
9 years ago
Really don't understand why anyone would care about MVP awards unless it is the Super Bowl MVP. That's the only one I'm hoping Aaron Rodgers gets. That's just me, carry on.
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9 years ago

Really don't understand why anyone would care about MVP awards unless it is the Super Bowl MVP. That's the only one I'm hoping Aaron Rodgers gets. That's just me, carry on.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I want him to win 4 league MVP's and at least 2 Super Bowls, then we can put Brett as our 3rd greatest quarterback. Aaron has Favre's physical abilities, maybe even more, and Bart's head. That's a pretty good combination. He's the best quarterback and player in the NFL.
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9 years ago

I want him to win 4 league MVP's and at least 2 Super Bowls, then we can put Brett as our 3rd greatest quarterback. Aaron has Favre's physical abilities, maybe even more, and Bart's head. That's a pretty good combination. He's the best quarterback and player in the NFL.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



I will agree that Rodgers is the best QB, but I don't agree as to him being the best player.
I think that should be based on a players merit relative to his position and peers.
And this year, without a doubt that is JJ Watt.

I completely agree with the take by Profootballfocus on this one.

Profootballfocus- Best Player 

Dwight Stephenson Award
In case you hadn’t noticed, PFF isn’t awarding an MVP this season. In most sports the most valuable player is inherently also the best player.
In football the most valuable players are all quarterbacks, such has been the development of the game.....we decided to simply recognize the best overall performance of the NFL season each year – the best player in football – and bestow the Dwight Stephenson Award to that player.
This award comes with no positional bias whatsoever. A guard has every bit as much chance to win it as a cornerback, pass-rusher, quarterback or any other position. All they need to do is dominate and perform during the regular season.

J.J. Watt, DE, Houston Texans

When all is said and done the Dwight Stephenson Award may end up being renamed in J.J. Watt’s honor. This is the award’s third season in existence and the third straight year it has been won by Watt. If anything, this season was even more convincing a victory than each of the past two.

It’s beginning to get difficult to explain just how much better than his peers Watt is. Zero is designed to be the ‘average’ PFF grade. There were 20 3-4 DEs with a grade lower than zero this season. Only 27, including Watt, graded above zero. The second-best of those was Sheldon Richardson with a +39.9 grade, nine sacks, 54 total pressures and 32 defensive stops. Watt posted an insane +107.5 grade, 21 sacks, 119 total pressures and 61 defensive stops. He also had 10 batted passes, four forced fumbles, an interception, a defensive touchdown, a safety… oh, and he scored three receiving touchdowns moonlighting as a tight end in goal-line packages.

Watt is so far out on his own in terms of play that he breaks every graph we create to try and illustrate it, extending axes and generally sitting off on a data point all to himself. He is completely redefining what we thought a defensive player was capable of, and is only getting better.

This season Watt moved around more than ever before, becoming a true edge-rusher more than an interior presence. His highlight reel is mind-blowing, and reminds you of watching NFL players when they were back in high school – he is just bigger, faster or stronger than everybody that is being tasked with stopping him, often all three at once.

We are truly privileged to be watching one of the best players to ever lace up cleats in action.

J.J. Watt is the now three-time winner of the Dwight Stephenson Award. He is the best player in football, period.





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