sschind
9 years ago

Or do we sign a FA that comes in at a more reasonable price?

Pats let Welker go and signed Edelman. There is nothing preventing us from financially setting ourselves a budget that we are willing to spend up to for that WR position.

There are a lot WRs available in FA so we should not have to bend over to anyone's demands unless we think that only Randall can get us back to the Superbowl. I don't think that is true.



Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 



True, there are a lot of WRs available but I don't know why anyone would prefer a lesser talent. None of the WRs available are as good as Cobb is at what he does. I know, I know, Aaron will make anyone just as good if not better so it really makes me wonder why they gave Nelson 9 million a year when they could have let him walk and gotten somebody who would have been just as good for half the price.
steveishere
9 years ago

True, there are a lot of WRs available but I don't know why anyone would prefer a lesser talent. None of the WRs available are as good as Cobb is at what he does. I know, I know, Aaron will make anyone just as good if not better so it really makes me wonder why they gave Nelson 9 million a year when they could have let him walk and gotten somebody who would have been just as good for half the price.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



There are different levels of player between as good as Cobb and some nobody. Look what Denver got out of Emmanuel Sanders this year for an example. I've seen very few people say any of the things you keep attributing to people but by all means keep saying them like that's what everyone thinks.
PackFanWithTwins
9 years ago
Question comes down to, what are you expecting out of the team this coming season, and can they accomplish that without Cobb? Personally, with how close they were, I'm expecting them to make the NFC Championship again, and make it to the SB. Now do I think they can do that without Cobb, yes but they would need to replace him with somebody of equal quality and I don't expect that to be had on the FA market at much cheaper if any. I do not believe we have the horses in the stable ready at this point for the team to reach that goal.

Maclin would be an interesting option to replace Cobb if he could be had cheaper.
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Laser Gunns
9 years ago
gimmie some Cobb plz.

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dhazer
9 years ago
Interesting tid bit in the franchise tag and TT.

2005 he tagged Bubba Franks transition tag

2008 Corey Williams franchise tag and then traded.

2010 Ryan Pickett franchise tag




Now on Cobb we do need him because we have nothing behind Nelson. Nelson does seem to get injured and I wouldn't feel comfy with the likes of Adams abby and janis.

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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sschind
9 years ago

There are different levels of player between as good as Cobb and some nobody. Look what Denver got out of Emmanuel Sanders this year for an example. I've seen very few people say any of the things you keep attributing to people but by all means keep saying them like that's what everyone thinks.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



If you are referring to the "Aaron makes em all better" type stuff I have seen a lot of it and I am not saying everyone thinks that because there are a lot of people who agree that it is important that we resign him. Obviously they don't think that.

To me it comes down to how much are you willing to gamble on being able to find a guy to replace him. If we can find a Sanders great but for a few million more, which I think we can easily afford, we don't have to take the chance. I'd gladly pay 9 million per year to know we won't have to worry about our WR corps for the next 3 years and we can focus on other areas as opposed to saving 6 million and have it be one of those areas that needs addressing.
OlHoss1884
9 years ago

Interesting tid bit in the franchise tag and TT.
2005 he tagged Bubba Franks transition tag
2008 Corey Williams franchise tag and then traded.
2010 Ryan Pickett franchise tag

Now on Cobb we do need him because we have nothing behind Nelson. Nelson does seem to get injured and I wouldn't feel comfy with the likes of Adams abby and janis.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



The franchise tag generally means overpaying, because it's based on the top 5 at that position. Is Cobb a top 5 talent? Hardly. Specifically, this year the tag for a WR is expected to be about $13 million. At that point why NOT give him the $9 million he wants? Because he's not worth $9 million.

Again, he's a good player, but to say we have nothing behind him is not true. With Nelson drawing the bulk of the best coverage, Adams will certainly fill the bill, plus the WR class is deep this year...my own "mock draft" on the other thread shows we could easily grab the kid from UCLA and there were other options available as well.

How easily do you replace a Bulaga or Williams? Not as easily as you replace Cobb. Like I said, he's a second receiver.


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steveishere
9 years ago

If you are referring to the "Aaron makes em all better" type stuff I have seen a lot of it and I am not saying everyone thinks that because there are a lot of people who agree that it is important that we resign him. Obviously they don't think that.

To me it comes down to how much are you willing to gamble on being able to find a guy to replace him. If we can find a Sanders great but for a few million more, which I think we can easily afford, we don't have to take the chance. I'd gladly pay 9 million per year to know we won't have to worry about our WR corps for the next 3 years and we can focus on other areas as opposed to saving 6 million and have it be one of those areas that needs addressing.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



I have seen similar stuff but nothing to the level you have been embellishing it as outside of maybe 1 person.
dhazer
9 years ago

The franchise tag generally means overpaying, because it's based on the top 5 at that position. Is Cobb a top 5 talent? Hardly. Specifically, this year the tag for a WR is expected to be about $13 million. At that point why NOT give him the $9 million he wants? Because he's not worth $9 million.

Again, he's a good player, but to say we have nothing behind him is not true. With Nelson drawing the bulk of the best coverage, Adams will certainly fill the bill, plus the WR class is deep this year...my own "mock draft" on the other thread shows we could easily grab the kid from UCLA and there were other options available as well.

How easily do you replace a Bulaga or Williams? Not as easily as you replace Cobb. Like I said, he's a second receiver.

Originally Posted by: OlHoss1884 




You do realize Cobb is the #1 rated wr free agent right? So why not give him the same money as Nelson seeing he is younger. Adams was a hit or moss last year and don't forget he was going against #3 and 4 cbs not a #2. So your willing to put all your money on a 2nd year guy because the defense will take away Nelson. We don't have a wr we can move around to work mismatches like we did with Cobb.

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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Zero2Cool
9 years ago
Defenses haven't been able to take Jordy Nelson away, even when Randall Cobb wasn't on the field.

Being one of the top rated WR (he is not the top rated) free agents is vastly different than being one of the top five talents at the position. Only his agent would try convincing otherwise, lol.
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