greengold
8 years ago
Not a really great draft for TT. We did get Randall Cobb and Davon House, and probably an extra fifth coming next year for House.

Thank God for Randall Cobb.

In 2010, after a solid draft by Ted Thompson that produced two immediate difference makers, the Packers won it all. Bringing the Lombardi Trophy home after squeaking into the playoff as a six seed, the Packers were favored to win it all again after a great draft on paper. But unfortunately in this case, the

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DakotaT
8 years ago
When you're picking 32nd in every round, what would you expect? Don't think Ted's at fault for drafting a guy that got both bones in his lower leg snapped by his own teammate. It's funny how Sherrod's injury led the way for us having to take Bahktiari.

But yeah, not really a stellar draft, but last year's was.
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nerdmann
8 years ago

When you're picking 32nd in every round, what would you expect? Don't think Ted's at fault for drafting a guy that got both bones in his lower leg snapped by his own teammate. It's funny how Sherrod's injury led the way for us having to take Bahktiari.

But yeah, not really a stellar draft, but last year's was.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Imagine if Ted got to keep all those guys whose careers were cut short with injuries. We won't count Justin Harrell, because that was a legit health gamble.

Terrence Murphy, dude was the real deal. Nick Collins. Has anyone seen anyone better at the position? Sherrod, the one that really disgusts me is Johnathan Franklin.

That's just off the top of my head. Suddenly Ted's drafts look quite a bit better, no?
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uffda udfa
8 years ago
No...they don't look better because you can't say what any of those guys would've done as pros and nobody is holding Nick Collins against his drafts.

Sherrod, prior to his injury, showed nothing.

JF had a tremendous game vs. Cincy save for the game losing fumble.

TM had a bunch of hype but didn't really do it in real games.

2011 was a brutal draft for Ted Thompson ...he's had a few.
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Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


greengold
8 years ago

No...they don't look better because you can't say what any of those guys would've done as pros and ...

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 


Isn't THAT a convenient double standard!

You don't have to compare Ted Thompson 's performance to a real human being performing in a similar situation.. You compare his performance to perfection with the benefit of hindsight when you point out all of his glaring faults.

Someone else isn't allowed to speculate what might have been if players hadn't suffered career ending injuries? Because it doesn't suit your agenda. Got it.



nerdmann
8 years ago

Isn't THAT a convenient double standard!

You don't have to compare Ted Thompson 's performance to a real human being performing in a similar situation.. You compare his performance to perfection with the benefit of hindsight when you point out all of his glaring faults.

Someone else isn't allowed to speculate what might have been if players hadn't suffered career ending injuries? Because it doesn't suit your agenda. Got it.



Originally Posted by: greengold 



Granted all GMs have to deal with injuries, but let's be honest, this team has had by far more than it's fair share.
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Zero2Cool
8 years ago
Glancing at the 2011 draft, I can't help think anything but. We. Stinks.

(picking 32nd each round is great though)
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uffda udfa
8 years ago

Isn't THAT a convenient double standard!

You don't have to compare Ted Thompson 's performance to a real human being performing in a similar situation.. You compare his performance to perfection with the benefit of hindsight when you point out all of his glaring faults.

Someone else isn't allowed to speculate what might have been if players hadn't suffered career ending injuries? Because it doesn't suit your agenda. Got it.



Originally Posted by: greengold 



It never gets old...that is sarcasm. I did say you would have to compare Ted Thompson to what another GM might do in the situations he's been in. Again, the classic misrepresentation to attempt to derail me. That is what you're reduced to...making things up. I don't need to do that.

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greengold
8 years ago

It never gets old...that is sarcasm. I did say you would have to compare Ted Thompson to what another GM might do in the situations he's been in. Again, the classic misrepresentation to attempt to derail me. That is what you're reduced to...making things up. I don't need to do that.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



I meant you won't name the 15 GMs better at drafting than Ted Thompson when you repeatedly claim he is "average."

For example, the 2011 Packers draft sucked. But I think it was a below average draft class. I look at the guys that would have been available when he picked Sherrod and nobody jumps out like "Ooh we totally could have had that guy instead!" And who knows what Sherrod could have been if his leg didn't get shattered.

Seattle had a very nice draft that year. In the later rounds. Their first two picks aren't with the team anymore, one isn't even in the league.
uffda udfa
8 years ago

I meant you won't name the 15 GMs better at drafting than Ted Thompson when you repeatedly claim he is "average."

For example, the 2011 Packers draft sucked. But I think it was a below average draft class. I look at the guys that would have been available when he picked Sherrod and nobody jumps out like "Ooh we totally could have had that guy instead!" And who knows what Sherrod could have been if his leg didn't get shattered.

Seattle had a very nice draft that year. In the later rounds. Their first two picks aren't with the team anymore, one isn't even in the league.

Originally Posted by: greengold 



I have said he's a tick above average... A C+/B- student so to speak. I don't concern myself with what all that many teams are doing. I pay close attention to the NFCN but that's about it. Compare him there. Minnesota seems to have had much better luck up at the top than we have.

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