steveishere
9 years ago



I'm not going to reread what you said. I'm going to stubbornly say I am right, you are not and stick my thumbs in my ears and walk away! 

Okay, you were saying to supplant the position of NT with RB or WR, not to use RB and WR. Got it. My mistake. 

I'm really stuck on the whole improve the DL drum. I don't feel the Packers DL is good enough.  Mike Daniels is the only one on the DL that is really good. The rest of the lot seems to be placeholders.  If the DL won't keep blockers off Linebackers, it doesn't matter if you have Jack Lambert, Ray Lewis back there. 

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



The thing with DL is you rarely improve it with a rookie so if our DL is improved this year it will likely be due to guys like Raji, Jones, Boyd, Thornton, Pennell improving moreso than a rookie. That doesn't mean don't draft one early this year, if you get a shot at a good DL talent early then take him but I wouldn't count on anyone new significantly improving the DL this season. I don't know what their plans are exactly but I actually like Guion as a DE. Our DL struggled with the run at times last year but I think they were very good at pass rushing and it seems like ALL of our run struggles were put on the DL last year when a significant amount of the time the problem was Peppers,Matthews, Hawk and Jones.
buckeyepackfan
8 years ago
Thought I would bring this back now that FA and the draft is over.

Hawk, B. Jones, T.Williams, House, Bush. Flynn, Lattimore are all gone from last year.

Did I miss anyone?

That's 7 spots opened up just by not resigning veteran players.

Figuring they will mostly be replaced by the drafted rookies, The 2015 Packers are going to be really young overall.

Still plenty of veteran leadership, and it will be interesting to see which of the 2nd and 3rd year players step up.

I see this team being an offensive juggernaut, and a young exciting defense.

Lots of scoring early in the season, until players get settled in on D.

All goes as planned, The Packers will be tough to beat by the time the playoffs roll around.
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Wade
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8 years ago

Thought I would bring this back now that FA and the draft is over.

Hawk, B. Jones, T.Williams, House, Bush. Flynn, Lattimore are all gone from last year.

Did I miss anyone?

That's 7 spots opened up just by not resigning veteran players.

Figuring they will mostly be replaced by the drafted rookies, The 2015 Packers are going to be really young overall.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



Just a bit of a tweak to your numbers
ILB: Lost three players (Hawk/Jones/Lattimore).
Acquired by draft: 1.
By my count this means 2 of 3 will be replaced by UDFAs and/or reallocation of a spot to another position. (always a possibility)

DB: Lost three (Williams, House, Bush)
Acquired by draft: 2 (Randall, Rollins)
Need one from UDFA or re-allocation.

QB: Lost one (Flynn). Replaced by draft (Hundley).





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greengold
8 years ago

Just a bit of a tweak to your numbers
ILB: Lost three players (Hawk/Jones/Lattimore).
Acquired by draft: 1.
By my count this means 2 of 3 will be replaced by UDFAs and/or reallocation of a spot to another position. (always a possibility)

DB: Lost three (Williams, House, Bush)
Acquired by draft: 2 (Randall, Rollins)
Need one from UDFA or re-allocation.

QB: Lost one (Flynn). Replaced by draft (Hundley).

Originally Posted by: Wade 



At ILB don't forget Joe Thomas from last year. If you count Barrington, Bradford, Ryan plus Thomas they wouldn't have to replace anyone if the UDFAs can't beat them out.

At CB don't forget Tay Glover Wright. Also has been with the team on the PS since last October. I have heard they are high on him.
Wade
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8 years ago
Weren't Thomas and Glover already on the roster when free agency started?

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greengold
8 years ago

Weren't Thomas and Glover already on the roster when free agency started?

Originally Posted by: Wade 



Yes. I thought you were talking about replacing players on the 53 man roster with UDFAs.
Barfarn
8 years ago

Thought I would bring this back now that FA and the draft is over.

Hawk, B. Jones, T.Williams, House, Bush. Flynn, Lattimore are all gone from last year.

Did I miss anyone?

That's 7 spots opened up just by not resigning veteran players.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



From last year's roster: Ya missed losing Dujon Harris, Bostic and Boykin.

And we got (8) coming from PS: Jean Fanor, Jeremy Vujnovich, Myles White, Josh Walker, Adrian Hubbard, Joe Thomas, Ta Glover-Wright, Rajon Neal RB

And (7) coming from IR: Mulumba, Palmer, Thornton, Abbey, Barclay, Raji, Luther Robinson

And (1) from Canada: Josh Francis (LB)

And (1) from vet pro day: Sebetic [He was on and of Giants practice squad last year so he was like their #62-65 guy]

And (2) from nowhere in particular: Blanchard, Mandell [Punter]

Then the Picks and UDFAs

Stud filled roster!

Barfarn
8 years ago
Oops! Bush ain't gone yet.

He still has his locker in tact w/ his nameplate and #24. They may be waiting for Bush to determine his market value after May 12 [the signing will not count in comp pick formula].
Smokey
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8 years ago
What should the 2015 Packers look like ? That is the question that this thread ask.

IMO, the Packers Offense will present the premier Offense in the league. The best QB, a quality O-line, good WR's, and one of the leagues best RBs.

The Special Teams at this point will be a mystery, but the kicking and punting will be in good shape. The coverage's on Kickoffs and Returns may improve, we shall see.

The Packers Defense will be the weakest seen for many a season. First the D-line should play as well as the last season, slightly above average. The Outside Linebackers will again be the strongest part of the squad. The Inside Linebackers are going to get Freight Trained as OL and RB's laugh. While Clinton-Dix is a good player, he can't cover the Corners as well. The Secondary will be the weakest part of this defense. We can only hope that the Offense will put more points than this defense is going to be serving up.

I now invite other forum members to also post their opinions to this threads topic.

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buckeyepackfan
8 years ago
I think if you go back and read what others have posted you will see they have already done what you are asking.

The only difference in your response and mine is I see improvement on the D as the season goes on, you seem to think they will only get worse.
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