Zero2Cool
8 years ago

you know, the one a few posts up that uses real analysis to show that you are talking out of your ass

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



Different thoughts and opinions don't mean they are talking from their ass.

Sorta leaving that subject ... we need more gooder smilies.
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uffda udfa
8 years ago

you know, the one a few posts up that uses real analysis to show that you are talking out of your ass

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 




Oh, that one? I would refer you to Barfarn's work on Richard Rodgers in his latest post admitting he was horrible as a rookie but saying that was perfectly normal and he's going to be Ed West as a blocker and a better TE than Finley, or to be fair, route runner.

So, Barfarn can completely dismiss Janis yet state some huge future for RR? Okay.

Janis has speed...more than anyone else on our offense. He's strong as a bull and pretty smart as well. Why would I let Barfarn's post make me disbelieve what I saw? It can't refute his measurables which are rare.

Will be a blast watching RR and JJ this season.
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68md
8 years ago

Oh, that one? I would refer you to Barfarn's work on Richard Rodgers in his latest post admitting he was horrible as a rookie but saying that was perfectly normal and he's going to be Ed West as a blocker and a better TE than Finley, or to be fair, route runner.

So, Barfarn can completely dismiss Janis yet state some huge future for RR? Okay.

Janis has speed...more than anyone else on our offense. He's strong as a bull and pretty smart as well. Why would I let Barfarn's post make me disbelieve what I saw? It can't refute his measurables which are rare.

Will be a blast watching RR and JJ this season.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



Whoa now... the "got speed" thing. We are not the Oakland Raiders in that we need a straight line speed guy.

So he has wheels. He also runs sloppy routes. Hell he still isn't knocking anyones socks off at minicamp last week. That's in shorts were his "speed" should have set him apart.

Janis is a nice prospect but after early two hand touch practice this month by all accounts Montgomery is kicking his ass already.

The guy with speed wasn't even on the return units this week but Montgomery and Abby were. ( Note Montgomery has fumblitis on punts... Abby has a leg up)

I will say we will know a lot more in August but Janis and his wheels better learn these timing routes and blocking or he may end up in Cleveland.

gbguy20
8 years ago

Oh, that one? I would refer you to Barfarn's work on Richard Rodgers in his latest post admitting he was horrible as a rookie but saying that was perfectly normal and he's going to be Ed West as a blocker and a better TE than Finley, or to be fair, route runner.

So, Barfarn can completely dismiss Janis yet state some huge future for RR? Okay.

Janis has speed...more than anyone else on our offense. He's strong as a bull and pretty smart as well. Why would I let Barfarn's post make me disbelieve what I saw? It can't refute his measurables which are rare.

Will be a blast watching RR and JJ this season.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



you cannot handle it when someone responds to your nonsense with actual facts and analysis. you speak these great things about 1 play you saw, which was a damn gimmie, AND he screwed up in the play to begin with. You ignore all of his failures the rest of the time. you are just a troll
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Barfarn
8 years ago

Oh, that one? I would refer you to Barfarn's work on Richard Rodgers in his latest post admitting he was horrible as a rookie but saying that was perfectly normal and he's going to be Ed West as a blocker and a better TE than Finley, or to be fair, route runner.

So, Barfarn can completely dismiss Janis yet state some huge future for RR? Okay.

Janis has speed...more than anyone else on our offense. He's strong as a bull and pretty smart as well. Why would I let Barfarn's post make me disbelieve what I saw? It can't refute his measurables which are rare.

Will be a blast watching RR and JJ this season.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



First, the misrepresentation of my Rodgers comments is simply dishonest.

Second, right or wrong, my opinion of Janis, like that of Rodgers, was derived by watching and evaluated every single one of his snaps [Rodgers was a special project]; as opposed to looking to one measurable or one play and building an entire cultish religious philosophy from it to the exclusion of all other logic and information.

Third, I have not dismissed Janis at all and have stated the opposite; so again it is dishonest for anyone to say I "dismissed" Janis in anyway.

Okay, we have one professing to be on a self-proclaimed mission to destroy irrational gushing homerism. BUT, I present a position of hope for Janis, which balanced by articulating some of his weaknesses; and this objective opinion is conclusorily crapped on by the purported anti-homerist; who, BTW, is irrationally gushes over a player ONLY because of his 40 time. This is the perfect paradigm of a FLAMER.

Fourth, please do not fear information; use it to enhance an opinion; though it might interfere with a nordic-12th man cult, that offers offers blood sacrifices of green and gold souls and the drinking of copious amounts of purple and [seahawk] green kool-aid, which is one heckava drug. LOL

Fifth, yes it will be a blast watching these guys PLAY IN GAMES; to bad some will be watching reruns of Janis and Rodgers running 40s at the combine instead.

Sixth, we know you saw Janis' speed, strength and smarts in a combine publication; that is worthy of one and only one comment in a thread.
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uffda udfa
8 years ago

you cannot handle it when someone responds to your nonsense with actual facts and analysis. you speak these great things about 1 play you saw, which was a damn gimmie, AND he screwed up in the play to begin with. You ignore all of his failures the rest of the time. you are just a troll

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



Did Randall Cobb screw up on his first TD catch? It's fine that you don't like my views. I can handle that. The rest is all window dressing.

I like Jeff Janis...he is a Packer so you should love him and have him penciled into the HOF. Ironic, that because I like the guy he's super flawed. I would examine my posts closely and see if there wasn't something going on there.
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uffda udfa
8 years ago

First, the misrepresentation of my Rodgers comments is simply dishonest.

Second, right or wrong, my opinion of Janis, like that of Rodgers, was derived by watching and evaluated every single one of his snaps [Rodgers was a special project]; as opposed to looking to one measurable or one play and building an entire cultish religious philosophy from it to the exclusion of all other logic and information.

Third, I have not dismissed Janis at all and have stated the opposite; so again it is dishonest for anyone to say I "dismissed" Janis in anyway.

Okay, we have one professing to be on a self-proclaimed mission to destroy irrational gushing homerism. BUT, I present a position of hope for Janis, which balanced by articulating some of his weaknesses; and this objective opinion is conclusorily crapped on by the purported anti-homerist; who, BTW, is irrationally gushes over a player ONLY because of his 40 time. This is the perfect paradigm of a FLAMER.

Fourth, please do not fear information; use it to enhance an opinion; though it might interfere with a nordic-12th man cult, that offers offers blood sacrifices of green and gold souls and the drinking of copious amounts of purple and [seahawk] green kool-aid, which is one heckava drug. LOL

Fifth, yes it will be a blast watching these guys PLAY IN GAMES; to bad some will be watching reruns of Janis and Rodgers running 40s at the combine instead.

Sixth, we know you saw Janis' speed, strength and smarts in a combine publication; that is worthy of one and only one comment in a thread.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 



I didn't misrepresent you at all...you have gone to extremes on RR. Why? I don't know...perhaps, you'll answer.

On one hand you had to deal with some stats presented by sschind regarding your man crush on RR. You backpedaled and made a huge excuse that that's what happens to rooks in our offense. It's just an overwhelming learning process. After that disclaimer, you went on to nostradamus all the wonders that RR would do one day for us but that was based on what exactly? The horrible year the kid had that previously you tried selling as impressive?

Now, we take Janis, who didn't get the same treatment as RR did by you. The kid barely had a second of time in this offense and you panned him. Yet, RR didn't make one single play ALL SEASON anywhere near Janis' play in St. Louie nor will he ever because he runs like a DE not a deer. RR has very limited athleticism. If memory serves, RR's wonderlic was lower than JJ's. JJ is a smart kid with all world elite athleticism and we all saw it on display. We, if we watched, saw MM's face on JJ's KO return vs. KC. The guy was visibly moved by JJ's speed. He has an element not present on this team that would be quite useful.

Write all the highbrow praise you wish of RR...couldn't care less. Janis has some special to him. RR does not. RR is nothing but an adequate TE prospect much like Quarless. We have two middling TE's but don't let that stop you from promoting either as something more.
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nerdmann
8 years ago

Did Randall Cobb screw up on his first TD catch? It's fine that you don't like my views. I can handle that. The rest is all window dressing.

I like Jeff Janis...he is a Packer so you should love him and have him penciled into the HOF. Ironic, that because I like the guy he's super flawed. I would examine my posts closely and see if there wasn't something going on there.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



YOu don't "like" Jeff Janis. You hide under your covers at night and jerk to his picture. I mean, Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, Julio Jones and Terrell Owens? This guy couldn't even get on the field.

The guy is flawed, because he's not that good, despite his measurables. Not because of anything you say. Although frankly, if you said the sky was blue, I'd have to go outside and check just to be sure.
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uffda udfa
8 years ago

YOu don't "like" Jeff Janis. You hide under your covers at night and jerk to his picture. I mean, Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, Julio Jones and Terrell Owens? This guy couldn't even get on the field.

The guy is flawed, because he's not that good, despite his measurables. Not because of anything you say. Although frankly, if you said the sky was blue, I'd have to go outside and check just to be sure.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



What is with the projection above? I asked previously...crickets. Now, here it is again. I have NEVER said Jeff Janis was like Rice, Moss, or Owens. I have said his measurables are similar to Julio Jones which are rare. That's all.

Yes, our shingled 7th rounder from a small school didn't get on the field. Oh no! Not that! That never happens in our draft and develop world that you of all people revel in.

How can you hate on this kid...he is a Packer. I don't get it. You all love your Packers and have each and every one's bust in your mind for Canton.

Welcome to THIS year. We'll see who is who and what is what. Janis will still be the fastest kid on our offensive roster and the strongest of all our skill guys. Man, it's awful I want a smart, strong, fast guy to succeed. I should be good with guys with far less attributes because that's what I've had to watch for the last how many years? Always push for better. I hope there is a kid with more than Janis has to offer next year.
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nerdmann
8 years ago

What is with the projection above? I asked previously...crickets. Now, here it is again. I have NEVER said Jeff Janis was like Rice, Moss, or Owens. I have said his measurables are similar to Julio Jones which are rare. That's all.

Yes, our shingled 7th rounder from a small school didn't get on the field. Oh no! Not that! That never happens in our draft and develop world that you of all people revel in.

How can you hate on this kid...he is a Packer. I don't get it. You all love your Packers and have each and every one's bust in your mind for Canton.

Welcome to THIS year. We'll see who is who and what is what. Janis will still be the fastest kid on our offensive roster and the strongest of all our skill guys. Man, it's awful I want a smart, strong, fast guy to succeed. I should be good with guys with far less attributes because that's what I've had to watch for the last how many years? Always push for better. I hope there is a kid with more than Janis has to offer next year.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



We have no complaints about Janis. We merely object to the manner in which you are conducting yourself in the discussion of this topic.
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