Wade
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8 years ago
IMO Adams has shown enough to conclude that he was worthy of having been drafted. He has not yet shown enough to conclude that he was worthy of being drafted in the second round.

IMO Abbrederis and Janis have not yet shown enough to conclude they are worthy of having been drafted.

IMO Adams has not yet shown himself worthy of the #3 roster spot. He may be #3 now, but that is only because no one else has shown themselves worthy either, and he's simply "best available."

IMO neither Abbrederis nor Janis has shown themselves worthy of a roster spot.

OTOH, IMO none of them have yet had enough time to demonstrate what, in the end, they are worthy of.
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gbguy20
8 years ago
It's pretty startling how many people think their is some conspiracy about who gets playing time and who doesn't.

Everyone says he wasn't ready, including himself, but you don't buy it? Oh ok.
TheKanataThrilla
8 years ago

It's pretty startling how many people think their is some conspiracy about who gets playing time and who doesn't.

Everyone says he wasn't ready, including himself, but you don't buy it? Oh ok.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



I agree Janis may not have been ready to be a steady receiver and understand all the complexities of the system, but to me it was a wasted opportunity to at least have him in on a go-route a few downs a game and force the CBs to keep up with him or get burned deep. I still think this type of strategy would have helped in the Seattle playoff game as it opens up the dump passes over the middle.

beast
8 years ago

I agree Janis may not have been ready to be a steady receiver and understand all the complexities of the system, but to me it was a wasted opportunity to at least have him in on a go-route a few downs a game and force the CBs to keep up with him or get burned deep. I still think this type of strategy would have helped in the Seattle playoff game as it opens up the dump passes over the middle.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 



First off, to suggest Janis didn't keep up with Adams because of number of chances is kind of ridiculous because they weren't even in the same area code as being ready to go... it had much more to do with Janis coming from a very small school and not having nearly as much NFL ideas or players to go against. He has a steeper learning curve to make and people said that well before his draft into the NFL.

That being said, I do think they did waste some opportunities... the one I had in mind was kickoff returns... I know some loved RB Harris, but the guy was fairly average at best on kick off returns. In the last one or two preseason games Janis seemed to be able to catch the kicks and use great speed to return them and would of been better than Harris if he could keep control of the balls.

Also could be used on deep routes some too, might not be able to beat the CBs back yet, but if he kept running deep route after deep route, very well might of tired the CB out, and/or held a safety in place watching him so they couldn't move forward as quickly.
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Yerko
8 years ago
Nelson and Cobb are the definite 1-2. I still think Adams locks the 3rd spot up with his improvement throughout last season and with the words of McCarthy coming into OTAs. 4th and 5th position will be between Janis and Abbrederis (I think Janis comes out on top of that battle) and depending on how Montgomery comes along in training camp, he locks the 6th WR position up with his return abilities.

Isn't Abbrederis still considered a return threat or have the Packers given this to Montgomery already? Last I heard, Montgomery was dropping the ball.
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nerdmann
8 years ago

Nelson and Cobb are the definite 1-2. I still think Adams locks the 3rd spot up with his improvement throughout last season and with the words of McCarthy coming into OTAs. 4th and 5th position will be between Janis and Abbrederis (I think Janis comes out on top of that battle) and depending on how Montgomery comes along in training camp, he locks the 6th WR position up with his return abilities.

Isn't Abbrederis still considered a return threat or have the Packers given this to Montgomery already? Last I heard, Montgomery was dropping the ball.

Originally Posted by: Yerko 



There's been alot of hype about Janis. He hasn't even made the team yet.

Abby sticks due to his PR abilities. Monty hasn't beat him out yet.
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QCHuskerFan
8 years ago

There's been alot of hype about Janis. He hasn't even made the team yet.

Abby sticks due to his PR abilities. Monty hasn't beat him out yet.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



I agree wholeheartedly about Janis.

Don't know if Abby has any PR ability left. It's a short list of WR/PR with rebuilt knees and successful careers as far as I can remember. I'm sure there are a few. But only a few.
uffda udfa
8 years ago

I agree wholeheartedly about Janis.

Don't know if Abby has any PR ability left. It's a short list of WR/PR with rebuilt knees and successful careers as far as I can remember. I'm sure there are a few. But only a few.

Originally Posted by: QCHuskerFan 



There has been a lot of hype about Janis because he has special speed and special strength. I see no reason he won't be the 4th WR to start and possibly the 3rd before season is over.

Abby is a guy who is such a smart football player...gotta be room for him somewhere unless he refused to get stronger and improve on his ridiculously low 4 pumps of 225lbs. And of course, Montgomery is making the team as a 3rd rounder. Gotta keep 6, there. Hard to do, maybe, with having to keep Hundley and Tolzien and needing bodies on DL.

1) Jordy
2) RC18
3) Davante (to start season)
4) Janis (to start season)
5) Abbrederis (to start season)
6) Montgomery (to start season)

The last 4 spots, if that's how many we keep, are going to be quite fluid, I think. No reason any of them couldn't be as high as 3rd or as low as 6th.
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earthquake
8 years ago
I agree with the list above but think it will be the bottom 3 rather than 4 that will be fluid. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Abby is 6th depending on how far along on his recovery he is.
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nerdmann
8 years ago

I agree wholeheartedly about Janis.

Don't know if Abby has any PR ability left. It's a short list of WR/PR with rebuilt knees and successful careers as far as I can remember. I'm sure there are a few. But only a few.

Originally Posted by: QCHuskerFan 



I'm more concerned about Abby's concussion history than his knee. Dude already knows how to run routes and get it done. That's something Janis has yet to prove he can do. Monty too.

If Monty can't field a punt, he's not gonna be PR.
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