PackFanWithTwins
8 years ago

Yup...I guess the other 20-30 teams who made a phone call also gave it the old college try and should be commended. Thank God we didn't get Randy Moss...nah, that would've been so unhelpful to us winning a championship. So glad that we offered peanuts to get the most gifted WR in NFL history, yes, Nerd, even more than Jeff freaking Janis. šŸ˜

We "tried" is not the same as trying hard enough or getting it done, but, again, the expectations of so many is set to NOTHING that the positive fan is left to things such as this. The objective sees that whatever was done was not enough and doing more would've been prudent. The positive won't go any further...he stops right there at...we tried...can't hold it against him for not getting it done because...he...TRIED.

This TRIED sounds eerily like CHANCE...all these phrases the not good enough use to justify not being good enough. Positive...meet...objective.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



What made the difference for not getting Moss was wanting him to commit to more than a 1 year deal. Patriots wanted that also, but gave in and got him.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
uffda udfa
8 years ago

What made the difference for not getting Moss was wanting him to commit to more than a 1 year deal. Patriots wanted that also, but gave in and got him.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



Brett sure received that info well. Retired the next day.

Patriots wanted to win more than we did. Ted Thompson can't get out of his own shadow and see the forest for the trees. You have a chance to sign the most special gamechangning WR in NFL history and you screw around and play it safe like always and...LOSE...AGAIN. It just gets old. I'm sure Brett had had enough. Aaron is tasting some of that now and Mike McCarthy has to be about ready to go postal.
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8 years ago
I've never liked John Elway. Probably never will. Thought he was overrated for his entire career, and an a-hole even among quarterbacks where a-holeness is almost a given.

But early results suggest he may be a better GM. He's still an a-hole, though.

Better than TT? Everyone knows I'm not much of a Ted Thompson fan, and wouldn't cry if he were gone. But I wouldn't want Elway either.

To me the anti-TT isn't Elway. It's Belichek. And Belichek I would take over Ted Thompson in a heartbeat.



And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
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PackFanWithTwins
8 years ago

Brett sure received that info well. Retired the next day.

Patriots wanted to win more than we did. Ted Thompson can't get out of his own shadow and see the forest for the trees. You have a chance to sign the most special gamechangning WR in NFL history and you screw around and play it safe like always and...LOSE...AGAIN. It just gets old. I'm sure Brett had had enough. Aaron is tasting some of that now and Mike McCarthy has to be about ready to go postal.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



Refresh my memory. How many SB did Moss win?
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uffda udfa
8 years ago

Refresh my memory. How many SB did Moss win?

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



Same amount as the team who drafted him has in over 50 years of being in the NFL.

Randall Cobb and Eddie Lacy have zero SB's...should we cut them?

Julio Jones has zero SB's as does Calvin Johnson...why would we want either one of them? šŸ˜•

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Zero2Cool
8 years ago
Calvin Johnson 30 and cap hit of $24 million
Julio Jones 27 and cap hit of $15.9 million
Jordy Nelson 30 cap hit of $8.3 million


Calvin Johnson is way too expensive and he is simply nowhere near the player he was just a few seasons ago. I can't even believe anyone would try to use Calvin Johnson. As for Julio Jones, well, that's a good dude there and I would trade Jordy Nelson for Julio Jones in a nano second.
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uffda udfa
8 years ago
If Megatron is cut any team can negotiate any deal they wish with likely lessening his cap charge below Jordy's.

I tried picking WR examples that have been special and change games. Julio and Calvin are two of the best ever.

I shouldn't have responded to the inane comment. My bad.
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Zero2Cool
8 years ago

If Megatron is cut any team can negotiate any deal they wish with likely lessening his cap charge below Jordy's.

I tried picking WR examples that have been special and change games. Julio and Calvin are two of the best ever.

I shouldn't have responded to the inane comment. My bad.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



My bad, but thank you for stating that if a player is cut they are free to negotiate with any team - that opens up things a lot. I would take Julio with his current contract or Calvin at a very incentive laden contract. That's if even plays this coming season.

Then trade Jordy Nelson to the Panthers for Luke Kuechly. Shut up, I see you groaning with that disappointing tone of voice, the Panthers would so accept the trade!!
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blueleopard
8 years ago
Denver is operating with a win-now mentality, but look at the guys they have. They have guys who are LITERALLY on their last legs. It's the exact same thing Oakland did in 2002. It took them 13 years to look half decent again.

Elway had a better Manning two years ago, and they weren't even competitive. They won their Super Bowl this year more in spite of Manning than anything.

Next year that will be a completely different roster.
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dhazer
8 years ago

Denver is operating with a win-now mentality, but look at the guys they have. They have guys who are LITERALLY on their last legs. It's the exact same thing Oakland did in 2002. It took them 13 years to look half decent again.

Elway had a better Manning two years ago, and they weren't even competitive. They won their Super Bowl this year more in spite of Manning than anything.

Next year that will be a completely different roster.

Originally Posted by: blueleopard 



Well you could also look at the Patriots that play the win now card and grab players they want to make a difference. That kinda works for Bill he has what 5 super Bowls and 7 appearances in 16years. And they played in their 5th straight AFC Championship game. Ya that win now mentality doesn't work for anyone šŸ˜‚ .

Before you ask who do they get? Moss, Welker, look at this year Steven Jackson. So yes they pull old timers out of the graves to play also. Bill is the best coach and GM by far. He can make trades and always get the better end of the deal. Elway is following kinda in his shoes, but we have to see. 2 Super Bowl appearances and every year in the playoffs is a pretty good start.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be šŸ™‚ (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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