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Barfarn
Senior Member

8 years ago

I was thinking $10 million, but close enough. Either way the draft picks are going to cost around $6 million to get under contract, and most teams like a little walking about cap change so they can sign new guys to the 53 man roster, when others get injured and go to the IR. So the Packers are probably done signing guys, unless their is another guy that will cost less than $4 million and the Packers can't resist.

Originally Posted by: beast

Beast, signing the draft class will only cost about $1.75M more against the cap [for every pick that makes the team a guy with a $450-550K contract will be cut].

And taking the top 51 is meaningless in terms of figuring how much is left to spend, because GB is going to have 53 contracts Sept. 1.

So if we have $11M left; we lose $1M for contracts 52 and 53 and we lose $2M for draft. If Ted Thompson keeps $7M for season we have about $1 to 1.5M to spend; but remember for every guy added at least a guy will about a $500K salary gets cut. If, for example, we sign Kuhn to min deal like last year, he will cost almost nothing against the cap.

steveishere
Veteran Member

8 years ago

#22

But that's what you do when you have a legitimate contender. You go buy a few players that put you over the edge. Denver's 3 Lombardis should be a testament to this kind of approach and success, should it not?

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

I mean you could also use the Saints and their current 31m in dead money and no playoff appearances the last 3 years with a top QB and your mancrush at head coach.

beast
Select Member

8 years ago

#23

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

No,

1) Green Bay has 4 Lombardis and 4 > 3, Packers have more Lombardis if we're taking count.

2) Taking only a single example is a small sample which is a logical fallacy. Many other example doing the same thing include the Redskins (before their current GM, especially when the owner was the GM), Raiders (late with Al Davis), Saints (recent years since winning their SB), Packers (under Sherman) and probably the Cowboys with Jerry Jones as GM and most of them haven't won while for doing it (I'm unclear if the Saints were doing it yet at the time of their Super Bowl win, or if it started afterwards).

3) You proved my point, as Denver's "creative" and "aggressive" accounting led to them lying and cheating during 2 of their 3 Lombardis years as they circumvented the salary cap (and therefor where in violation of the cap) between the 1996 and 1998 seasons.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

8 years ago

#24

Originally Posted by: beast

Maybe you'll trust Brian's calculator. 😁

beast
Select Member

8 years ago

#25

Maybe you'll trust Brian's calculator. 😁

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

I trusted your calculator. .. which is why I said I WAS thinking (ie past tense).

But now I'm wondering if Cook's 0.9 million incentives threw me off, or to Barfarn's point above, with the set number amount, when you add one higher number you also have to subtract the lower one, because it's not longer in the top 51

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

8 years ago

#26

Originally Posted by: beast

I am never trusting salary cap calculators. I don't think I've seen the same values from two different sources yet. Sources as in places that "calculate" the numbers. I do trust Spotrac the most though.

beast
Select Member

8 years ago

#27

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Yeah I like Spotrac too and used it... I also love how they break contacts down, because fans will complain about a guys cap number being too high and that he's earning too much for that year, and need to cut it 20 to 30 percent... but when you look at the break down of the contract, really 20 to 30 percent of the cap number has already been earned based on past years and just being accounted for now (because that's often how the NFL account for signing bonus, spreads them out, with a few low base amount the first one or two years) and the player is really just earning the amount the fans are complaining he should earn.

Peppers contact was a good example of that, as his his first year base was very low and a high signing bonus, meant the early cap numbers were very low, and then got very high later, but really it was pretty evened out what he was really earning, and one of the reason I think the cap is the wrong device to follow for making judgment off of like fans do, because it's miss leading for any multi year concept, and fans often want to make multi year decision based off a single cap year.

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