Zero2Cool
7 years ago
I've never cared much for the grades before pads thing and feel strongly you need three seasons to adequately assess a player.

How do you grade the draft class for the Packers from 2013? Feel free to do individual or collective.

Year	Round	Selection	Player	Position	College
2013	1	26	Datone Jones	DE	UCLA
2013	2	61	Eddie Lacy	RB	Alabama
2013	4	109	David Bakhtiari	T	Colorado
2013	4	122	J.C. Tretter	T	Cornell
2013	4	125	Johnathan Franklin	RB	UCLA
2013	5	159	Micah Hyde	CB	Iowa
2013	5	167	Josh Boyd	DE	Mississippi St.
2013	6	193	Nate Palmer	LB	Illinois St.
2013	7	216	Charles Johnson	WR	Grand Valley St.
2013	7	224	Kevin Dorsey	WR	Maryland
2013	7	232	Sam Barrington	LB	South Florida



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nerdmann
7 years ago
Great draft overall. Charles Johnson and Franklin were casualties of our medical staff.

Say what you want about Datone, but he never fit our system. Just now they're going to be (trying to) play to his strength as a pass rusher.
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luigis
7 years ago
2013 1 26 Datone Jones DE UCLA -> D
2013 2 61 Eddie Lacy RB Alabama -> A
2013 4 109 David Bakhtiari T Colorado -> A+
2013 4 122 J.C. Tretter T Cornell -> B+
2013 4 125 Johnathan Franklin RB UCLA -> F
2013 5 159 Micah Hyde CB Iowa -> A+
2013 5 167 Josh Boyd DE Mississippi St. -> C-
2013 6 193 Nate Palmer LB Illinois St. -> B
2013 7 216 Charles Johnson WR Grand Valley St. -> C
2013 7 224 Kevin Dorsey WR Maryland -> C
2013 7 232 Sam Barrington LB South Florida -> A

Overall: A

I never liked Datone in the first round, he might be a serviceable player but he is not worth a first round pick in my opinion.
I've been on the record about Franklin not being able to become an NFL player BEFORE the draft so I was upset with the pick.

The rest of the picks are either nice attempts or beautiful selections. Lacy was a steal and I was amazed when Teddy picked Bakhtiari because I saw him play in Colorado and I was hoping he could become a Packer it is nice to see I was very right about him.

This was a nice draft overall we got starters in several key positions, too bad we couldn't find a better 1st round pick but it wasn't easy seeing the players available.
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nerdmann
7 years ago

2013 1 26 Datone Jones DE UCLA -> D
2013 2 61 Eddie Lacy RB Alabama -> A
2013 4 109 David Bakhtiari T Colorado -> A+
2013 4 122 J.C. Tretter T Cornell -> B+
2013 4 125 Johnathan Franklin RB UCLA -> F
2013 5 159 Micah Hyde CB Iowa -> A+
2013 5 167 Josh Boyd DE Mississippi St. -> C-
2013 6 193 Nate Palmer LB Illinois St. -> B
2013 7 216 Charles Johnson WR Grand Valley St. -> C
2013 7 224 Kevin Dorsey WR Maryland -> C
2013 7 232 Sam Barrington LB South Florida -> A

Overall: A

I never liked Datone in the first round, he might be a serviceable player but he is not worth a first round pick in my opinion.
I've been on the record about Franklin not being able to become an NFL player BEFORE the draft so I was upset with the pick.

The rest of the picks are either nice attempts or beautiful selections. Lacy was a steal and I was amazed when Teddy picked Bakhtiari because I saw him play in Colorado and I was hoping he could become a Packer it is nice to see I was very right about him.

This was a nice draft overall we got starters in several key positions, too bad we couldn't find a better 1st round pick but it wasn't easy seeing the players available.

Originally Posted by: luigis 



Datone wasn't even on my board. But I don't think he's a bad player. He probly wants to play somewhere he fits.

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isocleas2
7 years ago
I still have hope Jones will find a role at the elephant OLB/DE role, at times last season he flashed some upper level pass rushing ability he just never got consistent with it.
luigis
7 years ago

I still have hope Jones will find a role at the elephant OLB/DE role, at times last season he flashed some upper level pass rushing ability he just never got consistent with it.

Originally Posted by: isocleas2 



Yes but it seems like Jones is following the path of AJ Hawk and Nick Perry. First round selections, starters, never been too bad but never been a force, they alternate good games with games where they disappear, when you are about to ask for their heads they produce some play and when you are about to send them to the probowl they go unnoticed for a few games.

So yes, the problem is being inconsistent you put it very well.

I wonder if having these "flat" players is actually good or bad for the team, I feel they start because they were first round picks and not because they deserve it.

Luis
steveishere
7 years ago

I still have hope Jones will find a role at the elephant OLB/DE role, at times last season he flashed some upper level pass rushing ability he just never got consistent with it.

Originally Posted by: isocleas2 



I don't know, he's been a pretty consistently good pass rusher but he hasn't been what Dom wanted out of his DL so he hasn't gotten enough snaps for the impact to show. Hopefully the position change gets him on the field more.
Smokey
7 years ago
IMO, grading a draft takes from 3 to 4 years. However, as far as grading the Packers on the 2016 draft picks and being cautiously optimistic, I will grade this years draft class a B .

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buckeyepackfan
7 years ago
7 of the 12 still with the team.
1 offensive rookie of the year.
6 of the 7 have been or will be starters this year.

2 of the 5 Not with the team due to career ending injury.

1 is let go after 3 years of backup and spot starting.

Any other team in the league would take those results every time.

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gbguy20
7 years ago

IMO, grading a draft takes from 3 to 4 years. However, as far as grading the Packers on the 2016 draft picks and being cautiously optimistic, I will grade this years draft class a B .

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