Tezzy
7 years ago
Defense did more than enough even with young player mistakes to win the week two match up. Growing pains aren't going to go away overnight. I wouldn't say slow is the problem more than people staying on their man and not biting on double moves so often that leads to big plays. I still like the talent we have in the secondary and think they are going to grow into one hell of a unit. Too early in the season for me to give up hope in that. As stated previously we gave up 17 points on the road to a division foe. That isn't on the defense in my book for the loss and not the biggest of my concerns going forward at the moment.
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nyrpack
7 years ago
like ive said for a few yrs now, its time for dom to go, its not the 90s anymore, we gotta get a fresh blood approach !!
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Porforis
7 years ago

Defense did more than enough even with young player mistakes to win the week two match up. Growing pains aren't going to go away overnight. I wouldn't say slow is the problem more than people staying on their man and not biting on double moves so often that leads to big plays. I still like the talent we have in the secondary and think they are going to grow into one hell of a unit. Too early in the season for me to give up hope in that. As stated previously we gave up 17 points on the road to a division foe. That isn't on the defense in my book for the loss and not the biggest of my concerns going forward at the moment.

Originally Posted by: Tezzy 



17 points on the road where the vikings frequently had excellent starting field position much like they did in Jacksonville (although not quite as bad). Gave up way too many yards through the air, but the good news is that it was mostly clustered to two drives where we were being shredded. Which is a big part of why we only gave up 17 points.
nerdmann
7 years ago

17 points on the road where the vikings frequently had excellent starting field position much like they did in Jacksonville (although not quite as bad). Gave up way too many yards through the air, but the good news is that it was mostly clustered to two drives where we were being shredded. Which is a big part of why we only gave up 17 points.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



If it continues I will become concerned, but right now, it's just a fluke. Bradford got hot for a couple drives. Besides, it looked like a #patented Dom Capers communication breakdown to me. Randall looked like he was expecting help in the middle and up top. He purposely moved into a trailing position.
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PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago

Why am I focusing on the defense? Because if you have a great defense you can have Trevor Simian at QB and win, or you can win a SB with Trent Dilfer as your QB.

Originally Posted by: luigis 



Look at the salaries on Great Defenses like the Ravens had. Ravens had great Defense, until they paid for a QB (Flacco) since the defense as declined. Seattle had a great defense and it has also declined since Paying Wilson. Our best defense in recent times was also before Rodgers really got paid.
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yooperfan
7 years ago
The Packers secondary is absolutely pathetic😴!
nerdmann
7 years ago

The Packers secondary is absolutely pathetic😴!

Originally Posted by: yooperfan 



I take a lot of criticism for emphasizing time of possession. However we can see today why that is so important. This D had FIVE starters out with injuries. Then it also had a couple guys out on suspensions.

Randall turned his ankle in the first half. We've got guys who can't run due to injury and guys who are undrafted rookies out there. What do you THINK is gonna happen?

Let's do what we can to burn some clock and keep them off the field as much as possible.
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steveishere
7 years ago

I take a lot of criticism for emphasizing time of possession. However we can see today why that is so important. This D had FIVE starters out with injuries. Then it also had a couple guys out on suspensions.

Randall turned his ankle in the first half. We've got guys who can't run due to injury and guys who are undrafted rookies out there. What do you THINK is gonna happen?

Let's do what we can to burn some clock and keep them off the field as much as possible.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



There are circumstances where conquering TOP is important but in general it really has no correlation to winning football games.
nerdmann
7 years ago

There are circumstances where conquering TOP is important but in general it really has no correlation to winning football games.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



One of those correlations is, when your defense sucks balls.
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Rockmolder
7 years ago

If it continues I will become concerned, but right now, it's just a fluke. Bradford got hot for a couple drives. Besides, it looked like a #patented Dom Capers communication breakdown to me. Randall looked like he was expecting help in the middle and up top. He purposely moved into a trailing position.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Man, that's some mild response coming from you after this selfshitfest.

Anyway, when we're giving up 205 to an extremely average WR like Marvin Jones, the week after we gave up a career high 180 to Diggs and nearly 300 to Bradford who'd been there for a week or two and all that coming the week after we gave up 320 to Blake Bortles... This is the right time to be concerned.

Our pass defense has been absolutely atrocious. I know the numbers don't tell the whole story, but so far it hasn't looked pretty, either. Our run defense is getting us a lot of longs 2nd and 3rd downs, but if that wasn't the case, we could've been giving up 30 points per game.
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