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yooperfan
Veteran Member

7 years ago

#11

No way of knowing how Ted would have done without Rodgers. How would Bellicheat have done without Brady?

Originally Posted by: Bnoble

We saw the team Thompson built when Rodgers was injured.
Seneca Wallace anyone?
It wasn't pretty.

yooperfan
Veteran Member

7 years ago

#12

No way of knowing how Ted would have done without Rodgers. How would Bellicheat have done without Brady?

Originally Posted by: Bnoble

We saw what the Patriots did without Brady.
3-1, not bad.
That's the team Belichik built.

uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

7 years ago

#13

We saw the team Thompson built when Rodgers was injured.
Seneca Wallace anyone?
It wasn't pretty.

Originally Posted by: yooperfan

The doomsday scenario was mentioned up above a few posts. Ted gifts Mike an extension right before he checks out ala Presidential pardons. I feel confident Ted is gone after this year. I'm not as confident we'll be rid of Mike McCarthy at the same time, but it would be nice symmetry to see both leave together.

As for the Seneca Wallace thing. The issue was ever thinking Seneca Wallace was any kind of solution. We hear all the time that Ted had no other options and did the best he could. There's no way in a million years Seneca was the best available option. Putting Randall Cobb at QB from his old Kentucky (RC18 threw 99 passes as a Frosh QB) days would've been much better.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

wpr
Preferred Member

7 years ago

#14

No way of knowing how Ted would have done without Rodgers. How would Bellicheat have done without Brady?

Originally Posted by: Bnoble

Sure we know. Just look at the 2013 record of 2-4-1 for some perspective. If nothing else it gives us a real good idea.

Wins were against Dallas 8-8 and Atlanta 4-12.
Tied 5-10-1 Minnesota.
While they lost to Phillie with a 10-6 record, they also lost to mediocre teams like Pittsburgh 8-8, NYG 7-9 and Detroit 7-9.

By comparison 2 of Rodgers' losses were on the road to SF and Cincinnati both teams made the playoffs. The other loss was the Bears game that Aaron left with the broken collarbone. They nearly won that game even without Aaron.

nerdmann
Premier Member

7 years ago

#15

Originally Posted by: wpr

Our backup that year didn't last one whole drive in his first start.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

wpr
Preferred Member

7 years ago

#16

Our backup that year didn't last one whole drive in his first start.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

I am aware of who the backup QBs were.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

7 years ago

#17

We saw what the Patriots did without Brady.
3-1, not bad.
That's the team Belichik built.

Originally Posted by: yooperfan

The Patriots also were able to plan for the absence of their quarterback for several weeks prior to the season, if not months. Not to discredit the team because they have a solid team. It's just something that can't be overlooked completely because your starting QB is going to get nearly 75% of the reps while the last quarter gets divided up between backups.

You give your backup those reps and you are much more prepared because you get to see the strengths and weaknesses of what they can and cannot do.

The Packers 2013 season they kept losing QB after QB and had no such plan. I think the Packers were competitive in each game.

In 2010 Matt Flynn had a full week of being the guy after being backup the entire season (all those backup reps helped) and gave the Patriots a helluva fight. The Packers were never more than 7 points away from leading.

Cheesey
Preferred Member

7 years ago

#18

Great point Zero!
If a starting QB gets hurt, the second string guy has to come in cold. And he never knows when it might happen. Look at Brett Favre and his backup guys. Favre didn't miss a start, so the backups must have felt, "why get ready when there's virtually NO chance of getting in the game?"
Yet it might happen at any moment.
It has to be hard to be in that situation week after week.

PackFanWithTwins
Veteran Member

7 years ago

#19

As of right now, I expect Ted to leave first. I think the transition is already in motion for his retirement. And I don't expect a surprise move to bring in somebody from outside that is going to want McCarthy replaced. If McCarthy goes any time soon it will be by his choice not somebody else. Looking at Brady I see no reason Rodgers can't play to the same age which would give him another 6 years and it wouldn't surprise me to see McCarthy with him until Rodgers decides to hang them up.

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