Smokey
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6 years ago


I can't wait for the the Packers Greatest Draft Picks thread.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 




IMO, GB's greatest draft pick ever was the 17th round / 200th player chosen in the 1956 NFL Draft .He was a QB from The University of Alabama named Bart Starr . [biggrin]






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wpr
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6 years ago

Ron Wolf does factor into this because if Tony Mandrich wasn't selected, there's a good chance Tom Braatz doesn't get canned opening the door for Ron Wolf. Belichick? No clue why he'd be mentioned at all. He wasn't part of the Packers, Wolf was and it's easy to see the connection.

You mentioned the others as can't miss prospects as if Mandrich was not. He was THE can't miss prospect of the entire '89 draft. No one had a clue he was going to flop. No one.

I can't wait for the the Packers Greatest Draft Picks thread.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Exactly. Belicheat has nothing to do with the Packers biggest draft failures neither does Wolf. Wolf didn't draft the biggest bust. He came on to the scene afterward. He didn't contribute to it he cleaned up the mess. That doesn't mean the draft pick is any less of a failure.
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PackFanWithTwins
6 years ago
Mandrich was a bad pick because all the signs were there for him being a roid head.

I also remember Barry saying he didn't want to play for a team with Natural Grass, he wanted to be on Turf.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
Zero2Cool
6 years ago

Exactly. Belicheat has nothing to do with the Packers biggest draft failures neither does Wolf. Wolf didn't draft the biggest bust. He came on to the scene afterward. He didn't contribute to it he cleaned up the mess. That doesn't mean the draft pick is any less of a failure.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Keep twisting things around to fit your narrative, whatever man. I merely said I am glad he was a failure because I have the benefit of hindsight here and because I feel it led to the firing of Braatz and the eventual hiring of Wolf. So, while the player himself didn't help the Packers immediately, in the long run it was a success.




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Smokey
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6 years ago

Keep twisting things around to fit your narrative, whatever man. I merely said I am glad he was a failure because I have the benefit of hindsight here and because I feel it led to the firing of Braatz and the eventual hiring of Wolf. So, while the player himself didn't help the Packers immediately, in the long run it was a success.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



No doubt about it , the blowback over the Tony Mandrich draft did lead to changes to the Packer leadership . Those changes turned out well and can be looked at as a mile marker on the Packers long and storied road .

Those events occurred over 25 years ago , yet the lessons learned from it are as relevant today . Success at the College level does not always mean that their will be success at the Pro-Level . GB's 1st and 2nd round 2015 draft picks bring this sharply into focus today. DB's Randall and Rollins were part of the NFL's 31st ranked Secondary in 2016 .

It is based upon that poor performance that I hope that GB picks the best DB available with their 1st round / 29 overall draft pick in the 2017 NFL Draft . "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one ."







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nerdmann
6 years ago

Damn nerd I knew you were great. I just never knew the depths of your abilities. I didn't realize were psychic. I should have realized you can look at a guy and know what his stats and abilities would have been with a team he never played for. I bet you rock Vegas all day long.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Iirc there were two years in a row where Fritz Shurmer held Barry Sanders to NEGATIVE yardage in the playoffs at Lambeau.

But yes, I am great. 👍
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Zero2Cool
6 years ago

Iirc there were two years in a row where Fritz Shurmer held Barry Sanders to NEGATIVE yardage in the playoffs at Lambeau.

But yes, I am great. 👍

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



The negative yards was the Lions OL and play call selection, not indicative on Barry Sanders!!! 😎 [bdance]
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PackFanWithTwins
6 years ago

No doubt about it , the blowback over the Tony Mandrich draft did lead to changes to the Packer leadership . Those changes turned out well and can be looked at as a mile marker on the Packers long and storied road .

Those events occurred over 25 years ago , yet the lessons learned from it are as relevant today . Success at the College level does not always mean that their will be success at the Pro-Level . GB's 1st and 2nd round 2015 draft picks bring this sharply into focus today. DB's Randall and Rollins were part of the NFL's 31st ranked Secondary in 2016 .

It is based upon that poor performance that I hope that GB picks the best DB available with their 1st round / 29 overall draft pick in the 2017 NFL Draft . "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one ."

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Originally Posted by: Smokey 



Seems a little short sighted. if we had gone by this strategy we would have been drafting a replacement for Nick Collins before he ever became a Pro-bowler.

Needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. If that is the case, than drafting the best Pass rusher we can get would the be way to go, because doing so helps not only the line but the LBers and the Secondary.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
Smokey
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6 years ago
PFWT , an above average Secondary that can cover Receivers gives DE's / OL's / LB's more time to attack QB's . GB and it's future HOF QB can't afford to wait on training players that we hope will reach the potential they were expected to achieve . Any chain is only as strong as it's weakest link , the DB's are currently GB's weak links .






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Zero2Cool
6 years ago

PFWT , an above average Secondary that can cover Receivers gives DE's / OL's / LB's more time to attack QB's . GB and it's future HOF QB can't afford to wait on training players that we hope will reach the potential they were expected to achieve . Any chain is only as strong as it's weakest link , the DB's are currently GB's weak links .

Originally Posted by: Smokey 



An above average front seven that gets after the QB makes an average secondary look effective. 😂
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