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steveishere  
#21 Posted : Tuesday, August 8, 2017 9:25:15 AM(UTC)
shield4life said: Go to Quoted Post
They stack up with some of the best RB in the league?

We are talking about Montgomery right?

The WR/RB that has only been in the league for 2 years now which he only has 9 starts as a running back. How is this stat being actually analysed? Counting as of 2016 season week 7 & comparing vs the top running backs, it's irrelevant your practically analysing a stat that would only work towards your favour.

You can practically plug anyone in our backfieldand they'll will product as good as Montgomery has performed. When your a pass first team, opposing defense will tend to lineup more towards a pass play more then your run game. Asides the fact that Montgomery hasn't seen to much action as running back, opposing defense don't expect to much out of him.

I would love to have Montgomery playing as a WR or even as a 2nd halfback on the team for screen passes plays or to have him lined up in the back and make him catch the ball down the field as the opposing LB that will be assuming his a running back will never be able to cover him.

He is not a #1 running back & I do not expect him running the clock down at the end of the games when we are in the lead.

Eddie Lacy should of been our #1 running back & Montgomery should of replaced Starks duties. You need that big running back that's going to pound the opposing defense tire them out & allow you kill that clock at the end of the game.

When we first drafted him I loved his size & weight & I still do believe that he would be a better wide receiver then his going to be a running back.

Here's are the 2016 stats.

Falcons - 17 yards
Dallas - 47 yards
NYG - 27 yards

Week 17 - 44 yards against Lions
Week 16 - 23 yards against Vikings
Week 15 - 162 yards against Bears
Week 14 - 41 yards against Seahawks

As you can see in the past 7 games his only rushed once over 50 yards.

Lacy stats:

Week 1 - 61 yards against Jacksonville
Week 2 - 50 yards against Vikings
Week 3 - 103 yards
Week 4 - bye
Week 5 - 81 yards
Week 6 - 65 yards.


Ignoring Montgomery's receiving production is like the people talking about QBs who ignore Rodgers' running ability. It's an aspect of his game that makes him more dangerous.
Montgomery total touched the ball 121 times in the reg season and had 39 first downs
Lacy touched it 75 times for 16 first downs, in 2015 Lacy had 207 touches for 46 first downs only 7 more than MOntgomery added last year.

Had we drafted a player last year who was exactly the same as Montgomery but played RB in college and had a different last name people would be freaking out over how good he was.
wpr  
#22 Posted : Tuesday, August 8, 2017 10:19:02 AM(UTC)
nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
The main reason he will start over Ty.


Coach Mikey is always slow to make a change especially when it comes to putting a rookie in. Ty will be the starting RB for most of the season. By mid yr Williams will be in on more 1st and 2nd downs.
wpr  
#23 Posted : Tuesday, August 8, 2017 10:27:15 AM(UTC)
Smokey said: Go to Quoted Post
It is good that Williams and Montgomery are both having good success catching passes. It speaks well for for them and the Packers. Should expand the offensive package .

What I want to hear is that Ty and Jamaal have both improved in their pass blocking skills . I still believe that this year's running attack will be the Trio of Montgomery, Williams , & Ripkowski . Lets Box!




Unless something is terribly wrong. look for Rip to get 25 carries this year.
Ty will get 10-12 carries and 5-6 targets out of the backfield. As big and as strong as Ty is he is not a feature back.
Williams is. Before the year is over he will be carrying the rock 18-20 a game. It would be more but hey that cuts into Aaron time.
Smokey  
#24 Posted : Tuesday, August 8, 2017 10:56:23 AM(UTC)
wpr said: Go to Quoted Post
Unless something is terribly wrong. look for Rip to get 25 carries this year.
Ty will get 10-12 carries and 5-6 targets out of the backfield. As big and as strong as Ty is he is not a feature back.
Williams is. Before the year is over he will be carrying the rock 18-20 a game. It would be more but hey that cuts into Aaron time.


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O great Swami , can you also please thrill us with your insights into GB's Passing Attack also ? Will the GB Secondary SUCK again this season ?
Is Donald Trump sane ?


BigGrin
Yerko  
#25 Posted : Tuesday, August 8, 2017 11:01:43 AM(UTC)
I really do not care who is the starting RB between Montgomery and Williams.

Ty Montgomery has put his time and effort into making a new position work on the biggest stage of this sport. Good on him. He didn't have to switch to RB. I think he is going to excel and as I stated in a previous thread, I think he is going to be our featured back and will have 200+ carries this season.

Now, if Williams is going to come in and give Ty a bump and take some of those carries away, as a fan I couldn't be happier. This will give us a reliable RBBC for the first time in awhile and that only benefits this offense more.

Right now, give me Ty Montgomery in the starting role. He averaged 5.9 ypc last season. The hype is a bit too much at the moment for Williams.
wpr  
#26 Posted : Tuesday, August 8, 2017 2:47:16 PM(UTC)
Smokey said: Go to Quoted Post
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O great Swami , can you also please thrill us with your insights into GB's Passing Attack also ? Will the GB Secondary SUCK again this season ?
Is Donald Trump sane ?


BigGrin


I realize it's difficult for you but don't be an ass.
isocleas2  
#27 Posted : Tuesday, August 8, 2017 3:16:01 PM(UTC)
I honestly think the hype on Montgomery is too low atm.

He's a far more versatile weapon than Lacy's fat ass ever was (who preferred a 2nd chance in Seattle). Rodgers has never had a RB this talented to take some of the pressure off him, he's a matchup nightmare and an underrated runner between the tackles.

Some of the posters here are drinking the same kool-aid as me but imo Montgomery is primed to be THE breakout player for the Packers. The offense is stacked and he's the #1 person standing to benefit from all the attention elsewhere.

I liked all 3 RBs the Packers drafted and am interested in seeing if Jamaal Williams or any of the others can contribute in a meaningful way this year. But they're playing for backup reps none of them have a real chance of unseating Montgomery imo.

Edit: Found an article that properly articulates Montgomery's potential. https://sconniesportstal...y-poised-for-big-season/

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nerdmann  
#28 Posted : Wednesday, August 9, 2017 6:02:17 AM(UTC)
isocleas2 said: Go to Quoted Post
I honestly think the hype on Montgomery is too low atm.

He's a far more versatile weapon than Lacy's fat ass ever was (who preferred a 2nd chance in Seattle). Rodgers has never had a RB this talented to take some of the pressure off him, he's a matchup nightmare and an underrated runner between the tackles.

Some of the posters here are drinking the same kool-aid as me but imo Montgomery is primed to be THE breakout player for the Packers. The offense is stacked and he's the #1 person standing to benefit from all the attention elsewhere.

I liked all 3 RBs the Packers drafted and am interested in seeing if Jamaal Williams or any of the others can contribute in a meaningful way this year. But they're playing for backup reps none of them have a real chance of unseating Montgomery imo.

Edit: Found an article that properly articulates Montgomery's potential. https://sconniesportstal...y-poised-for-big-season/


Agreed, but Mike hates RBs with speed. He wants a glorified FB to get theee yards and a cloud of dust.
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