uffda udfa
6 years ago
This thread isn't dumb. It's a lot less dumb and more relevant than trying to guess the 53 man roster and I had no problem with that thread at all.

Don't worry, Buck. I leave when the season starts. I applaud you for handling my presence as well as you have. No F bombs and outright name calling? Bravo.

The org is not above reproach. Those who question nothing are drones. We're not meant to be drones.

This has been a primadonna team ever since the fortunate SB win. It looks as Ted fades that things are slowly changing and actually are making sense to try and get back to the show. My personal delight is rising as I feel the governor is starting to be removed from this org. There is a ray of hope beyond putting it all on 12.




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Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


Zero2Cool
6 years ago
Question everything.

But, can you question within reason??
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uffda udfa
6 years ago

Question everything.

But, can you question within reason??

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Absolutely. It's all a matter of perspective. What you may find wholly unreasonable, may be perfectly reasonable to me and vice versa.


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6 years ago



Absolutely. It's all a matter of perspective. What you may find wholly unreasonable, may be perfectly reasonable to me and vice versa.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



Ah but that is the issue. If it is only "reasonable" to you and no one else, then it really wasn't reasonable in the first place.
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uffda udfa
6 years ago

Ah but that is the issue. If it is only "reasonable" to you and no one else, then it really wasn't reasonable in the first place.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



If you're referring to the board, only, then you'd be wrong. This board is it's own ecosystem. Out on twitter there are those who hammer me like Buck used to love doing, and there are those who agree with me. What seems wholly unreasonable to the group here has an audience but in your world, here, it doesn't. That doesn't make me unreasonable, yet, wholly unreasonable to YOU and THIS BOARD. That's the beauty of it to me, but, again, that's a matter of perspective. I think it's great when there is a dissenting voice amidst the crowd of sameness. Heck, here there are some more inclined to the way I think. Yoop, Rich McGeorge, dhazer, etc.

It would be nice to understand what is being viewed as unreasonable? I'm not sure what Z or yourself might be referring to?

We've talked this out before about what each of us is looking for out of Packers football. It was pretty clear back then that the majority just wanted to be entertained and if the team happened to go far in the playoffs that was just a bonus. I watch to see a team with one of the greatest QB's of all time win rings. It's won one. Meanwhile, the guy in New England has FIVE rings, so, is it really unreasonable to expect better? No. However, it is to you because it hasn't happened. So, what happens? Justification for not reaching the destination... "It's hard to win in the NFL"..."Can't win it all every year"..."At least we're not Cleveland" and the excuse for not winning another Lombardi go on and on and on. I just happen to be a fan who expects better than you. Am I horrible and unreasonable to expect more? You are free to judge and apparently have.

What I know is Aaron and Tom aren't that far apart in ability ...Aaron is superior now as Brady is playing his final holes on the back 9. What is abundantly clear is our organization is nothing compared to New England's for if it were, we'd have 5 rings and NE would have 1. Another huge difference is when this team loses year after year it's injuries...if only we weren't injured. Meanwhile, over in NE, they lose the best TE in NFL history and they win another ring. They trade off Chandler Jones ...win another ring. I'm glad for you that you find enjoyment being 2nd best. If that works for you that's great. It doesn't work for me. 2nd place is the first loser. Most of the mentalities on this board line up with the org. Imagine that! Oh, we're a great team that always has a chance...we're successful...we win the division...we go to the playoffs. In NE, that's NOTHING to them and their fans. They operate under a different level of expectation. Had they lost to Atlanta in the SB it's a wasted year to them and their fans. I can't even imagine the flowery words over here had we been Atlanta: Oh, we were so close! We'll get them next year, on and on and on. One team and fan base expects to win and demands it and nothing else satisfies, while the other loves reading it's own press clippings how it's better than most and is better than their Bears and Vikings fans buddies so it's all good.

I'm not unreasonable...your expectations are WAY too low and your ability to excuse failure and even enable it in a sense is foreign to me. Have fun this year watching a team win regular season games and then implode when it matters. We'll still be better than 8-8. Great times! Nothing short of a SB win is successful to me but just go play an old Mike McCarthy presser on what constitutes a successful season. I'll choose to adopt the Patriots mindset over ours all day every day. We aren't them and that's shameful. No reason for us not to be other than the regime we have in place is not comparable to theirs.
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6 years ago
I am not referring to any one specific issue. I am not even referring to you specifically. If you look at my prior posts you will see I think there should be various points of view. Yours as well as others.
But my comment stands. Whether in real life or on a board, just because one person thinks what they say is reasonable doesn't make it so. The guy from Texas who use to spew horrendous comments certainly felt he was being reasonable.
Different points of view are what make a board interesting but just because someone can hide behind a keyboard doesn't allow them to say anything they want and claim they are being reasonable.
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uffda udfa
6 years ago

I am not referring to any one specific issue. I am not even referring to you specifically. If you look at my prior posts you will see I think there should be various points of view. Yours as well as others.
But my comment stands. Whether in real life or on a board, just because one person thinks what they say is reasonable doesn't make it so. The guy from Texas who use to spew horrendous comments certainly felt he was being reasonable.
Different points of view are what make a board interesting but just because someone can hide behind a keyboard doesn't allow them to say anything they want and claim they are being reasonable.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Everyone must decide for themselves what is and is not reasonable.

I understand why someone would say I'm not. A single group not agreeing, though, is not a great barometer. There is no view I've ever shared here that would have zero traction among the entire fanbase of Packers football. There's nothing unique I'm seeing or experiencing that would make what I'm typing unreasonable. Unpopular...oh, yes! Unreasonable...oh, no.

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Everyone must decide for themselves what is and is not reasonable.

I understand why someone would say I'm not. A single group not agreeing, though, is not a great barometer. There is no view I've ever shared here that would have zero traction among the entire fanbase of Packers football. There's nothing unique I'm seeing or experiencing that would make what I'm typing unreasonable. Unpopular...oh, yes! Unreasonable...oh, no.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



As I already said, I never said I was speaking about you specifically.
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