Zero2Cool
6 years ago

I disagree, IMO the recipe for the really good offensive outputs was good development of talented players. The Packers either haven't had as talented players, or haven't developed them as well.

Packers had Jennings, Nelson, slower Jones, ageing Driver and Finley...
now they have aging Nelson, Cobb, slower Adams and blocker Bennett?

Packers WR development dropped off when WR coach Jimmy Robinson left.

Originally Posted by: beast 



I disagree. WR dropped off when Edgar Bennett stopped coaching WR's. Suddenly we had drop-city.
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PackFanWithTwins
6 years ago
Zero, Beast you are both wrong. Its not a development difference. It is purely a talent difference. Adams, Cobb, and who ever else you want to throw in are not on the same talent level of Jennings, Jones, Nelson.

We need to hit on another High draft pick WR let Free Agency fix the defense.




The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
beast
6 years ago

You think Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy are winners and are right for the org.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

Is that what I think? I don't remember saying any of that, seems like your assuming again.

Of course you just wrongly assume everyone is against you, and your the only one that is open to change.

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uffda udfa
6 years ago

Is that what I think? I don't remember saying any of that, seems like your assuming again.

Of course you just wrongly assume everyone is against you, and your the only one that is open to change.

Originally Posted by: beast 



Anything to avoid really debating, eh? 🙂 I figured I'd get crickets to my questions but I had to ask so that you know, I know, what you're doing here.

Will you ever debate and lay out what you think? It's simple. Who cares if you get ripped for it. I've been ripped for very unpopular opinions for years but they haven't been wrong.


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Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


beast
6 years ago

Anything to avoid really debating, eh? 🙂

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 


I've (among many others) have found debating with you is pointless, because when you lose you just move the goalpost by changing the debated point... also because it's non-stop...

But also because you're falsely stating my position to create a false red herring position that you're ready to knock over... and I don't feel like dealing with the BS... because it's not like you've listened any other time I've explained it to you, you're just going to keep pasting me into that same false starting box.
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uffda udfa
6 years ago

I've (among many others) have found debating with you is pointless, because when you lose you just move the goalpost by changing the debated point... also because it's non-stop...

But also because you're falsely stating my position to create a false red herring position that you're ready to knock over... and I don't feel like dealing with the BS... because it's not like you've listened any other time I've explained it to you, you're just going to keep pasting me into that same false starting box.

Originally Posted by: beast 



Enough. I understand exactly what is going on here with you. When I post, I'm not going to be posting to you or anyone. I'll refrain from asking anyone a direct question. My posts will be blog style as if I was writing to an audience. We don't mesh and that's fine. I can control all these issues with a change in tack.


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Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


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