NFL considering 15 yard penalty for defensive pass interference

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

6 years ago

I wanna have a discussion about this. The spot foul is fine. If you go 15 yard penalty, everyone is going to just grab/hold a player. If you're close enough to incur a defensive pass interference, you weren't burned. This would really screw up plays. If you throw up a 40 yard bomb, you're gonna just tackle the guy because you're guaranteed to give up just 15 yards instead of 40 yards. This would be the end of 50/50 balls because the defender would deliberately arm bar or shove out of bounds or mug the dude. To battle this the NFL will add tiers of severity. This doesn't work, you all remember the 5 yard and 15 yard facemask stuff, right?

What do you think about the 15 yard defensive pass interference?

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isocleas2
Member

6 years ago

I think its fine. 15 yards and a 1st down is still no small thing to give an offense, so I don't buy into the notion that players are just going to hold every time there's a deep ball. Also some of the pass interference calls that net an offense 40+ yards can be bullshit, you go from punting the ball to being setup in the red zone over what are often questionable decisions.

Seems to work fine in college football. Honestly alot of new rules are tried in college then make their way to the NFL, the targeting rule should/will be next.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

6 years ago

Targeting rule is bullshit, absolute bullshit. I've watched several players get ejected for clear legal hits with leading with shoulder. Ejecting a guy for playing FOOTBALL? I'm going to need more convincing to buy into that one.

The Seahawks players have said they deliberately hold and what not often because "refs can't call it every time, otherwise the game would last 6 hours long". Teams will abuse 15 yard defensive pass interference. It wouldn't be hard to do. Especially on under thrown balls or overthrown balls where the WR has the advantage.

Cheesey
Preferred Member

6 years ago

I don’t like it. If a guy beats you deep, there would be no reason not to yank him down if all you give up is 15 yards. I don’t like it in college football either.

The LOS is your own 20, your WR runs deep, beating the DB, you throw a bomb on target that your WR is in line to catch on their 35 yard line....so the DB pushes your guy down. Instead of having the ball on THEIR 35, you have it on your own 35. A loss of 30 yards.
What DB won’t take that?

Pack93z
Select Member

6 years ago

I disagree on the spot penalty, the rule book is slanted so hard in the offenses favor, that awarding them a spot penalty for interference is too much. 10 or 15 yards and a First down is plenty.

Or.. if it is offensive pass interference, the ball is spotted the same distance from the line of scrimmage in the opposite direction and loss of down. That is when it is actually called.

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

6 years ago

Originally Posted by: Pack93z

So you get beat on a 50 yard pass, you know you can't knock the ball down so you armbar the guy so he can't catch. You're fine with that being just 15 yards when the WR could have caught it for 50 or possibly more?

They need to eliminate pass interference altogether, stop adding more damn gray areas! Let men be men and quit the crying. (not aimed at anyone, just my general feeling on rules, i h8z dem)

Pack93z
Select Member

6 years ago

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Yes... because if that same ball is underthrown and the defender has a bead on it.. the WR can just arm bar the defender and it is nothing more than a 10 penalty and loss of down.

I don't want to see receivers mugged, but at the moment, a simple tug of a jersey can be a 50 yard penalty. And many times it isn't more than a tug or a slight contact here or there.

The game has become a track meet with not much to lose of chucking it deep on a 50/50 ball... 50 percent of the time the reciever gets it.. 25 percent it is a penalty on the defender or that other 25 it may be intercepted.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

6 years ago

Originally Posted by: Pack93z

The amount of times that the offense actually inflicts something close to pass interference is so fractional though compared to how often defensive backs deliberately hold a guy back with a jersey, or armbar or blanket them illegally. I just think less rules is better, not more. This 15 yard thing doesn't do anything. Maybe half distance? I myself find ways to abuse 15 yard penalty so I know smarter defensive coaches will do the same and the game will further be lengthened by call after call. Right now there's a fear of giving up a spot penalty. You reduce that to just a measly 15 yards and my goodness, it'll be flag city.

I say the interference (both ways) needs to be egregious and blatant. If the CB body blocks the guy, so be it. I dunno. I just know I want less rules, regardless of whatever spot foul or 15 yard foul, I want less flags thrown in the game.

Pack93z
Select Member

6 years ago

I say the interference (both ways) needs to be egregious and blatant. If the CB body blocks the guy, so be it. I dunno. I just know I want less rules, regardless of whatever spot foul or 15 yard foul, I want less flags thrown in the game.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

That would suffice.. but that is not how the game is called today.

I also think whining for a flag on every incomplete should be dealt with as well.. whine, you must sit a play. :)

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

Pack93z
Select Member

6 years ago

#10

The amount of times that the offense actually inflicts something close to pass interference is so fractional.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Guess I see the plays differently... I see a large amount of shoving/extending their arm while the ball is in the air that is rarely called... if the defender takes the same action, it is more so called.

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