What the 1st round draft says about the Aaron Rodgers contract· Page 4

Smokey
Veteran Member

6 years ago

It is way to early for GB to be looking for Rodgers heir. BG and McCarthy are doing just the right thing in just the right way with Kizer and Hundley. A back-up QB competition in TC will serve more than one purpose.

It will push ALL of GB's QBs to elevate their play.

It will give the coaches more cause to be better coaches.

It also sends a message to every player, rookie and veteran, that few roster spots are safe.

Soliciting for a new starting QB at this time would only divert BG from his primary team goal for 2018, helping the GB Defense get better and fast. After all the Packers are going to be facing the leagues toughest schedule with most of the leagues most powerful offenses. The FAs already acquired for the defense is a good start, the draft should add to that.

TheKanataThrilla
Veteran Member

6 years ago

#32

It may not be the time to solicit a new QB, but when might we find ourselves drafting this low with Aaron as our QB? I would not want us to spend a lot of draft capital, but if a guy who we believe can be the future QB is within our sights you have to pull the trigger. I am pretty sure Pats fans are a bit pissed they traded JG as he has shown himself to be a pretty darn good QB in San Fran.

We have immediate needs, but I believe it is highly unlikely to fix in the draft. In my opinion the draft is more to look at needs for next season (Cobb and Matthews gone). We certainly need a CB or 2 with the bandaid we added at FA as well. Expecting rookies to be starters and difference makers is highly unlikely could be counter-productive to the rookies development.

Smokey
Veteran Member

6 years ago

#33

As I've already posted, IMO it is not the right time to try to find a replacement for Rodgers. That will come 3 to 4 years down the road.

In the mean time, bringing in a QB like Kizer shows also that a low level QB quest is always ongoing. In addition, teams have signed veteran QBs that have gone on to win a SB. Drew Brees, Curt Warner, and Payton Manning come to mind. So when the time is right or the need arises there are more than one way to get an elite QB.

For now, enjoy that GB has Rodgers for it's QB and let's all support the new DC and DC as they build the 2018 Packers. [thumbup]

macbob
Veteran Member

5 years ago

#34

IF this were to occur, then we picked the wrong person to be our GM. Time to cut bait and go to plan B.

It's possible/likely that they think Kizer can be THE guy, given a few years to develop watching from the bench behind a HOF QB vs getting dumped into the frying pan on the worst team in the NFL.

Nonstopdrivel
Preferred Member

5 years ago

#35

Kizer wasn't even the guy in college, though. He was a pretty mediocre quarterback overall. Why would he blossom into the guy in the NFL?

dyeah_gb
Member Topic Starter

5 years ago

#36

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla

Agreed. If the Packers are relying on rookies to bring this team to the superbowl in 2018 than we are screwed. The classic model that works best for teams like the packers is to develop talented draft picks within the system to start in 2-3 years time (not sure if the last CBA broke this model though) and to supplement outstanding needs in free agency without destroying the cap. Cases like Prescott and Elliot are the exception.

The first principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool - R. Feynman

Smokey
Veteran Member

5 years ago

#37

Originally Posted by: macbob

Neither Hundley or Kizer are in GB to be "The Guy" to replace Rodgers. They are only there to fill in if necessary. Also BG and most others know that Rodgers should play for another 6 to 8 seasons and it is too early to be on an all out search for the next "Guy" just yet.

R-E-L-A-X

nerdmann
Premier Member

5 years ago

#38

R-E-L-A-X

Originally Posted by: Smokey

Rodgers has another year or two, maybe three. If he can play until 40, that would be a huge outlier. Kizer has all the skills, he just needs to be developed. Whether that happens remains to be seen.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

dhazer
Veteran Member

5 years ago

#39

If one of the QBs fall to us, you take him. People keep saying Rodgers won't be going anywhere somehow believes we will win another ring with him. How can you win a ring with someone that will be taking up about 25% of salary cap space? Look at the past few winners? Foles aka Eagles have cheap contracts, Pats and Brady have a small contract. Seahawks with Wilson.

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)

DoddPower
Veteran Member

5 years ago

#40

Kizer wasn't even the guy in college, though. He was a pretty mediocre quarterback overall. Why would he blossom into the guy in the NFL?

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel

Kizer will not be "the guy" for the Packers. The Packers will be lucky if he even amounts to decent backup QB. I don't think Mike McCarthy is nearly as good at developing QBs as he seems to think.

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