With the 14th pick ...· Page 10

gbguy20
Veteran Member

5 years ago

I wish people on this forum would stfu about Hyde and Randall. I'm tired of pointing out how awful Hyde was and most of us wanted Randall straight cut midway through last season

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

5 years ago

#92

Z2C, the glaring lack of depth and talent on the d side of the ball necessitates a defensive heavy draft.
why waste arods remaining years?
you say i dont know who is poised to make a jump....ok, give me some candidtes... i am all ears. perhaps randall or hyde!!!!
we also dont know who is ready to fade, get hurt, like CM3 (again)
we need to draft defense, not QB

Originally Posted by: KRK

Glaring? We have new defensive coordinator. One that adapts scheme to players, not players to scheme. As I said, we don't know who's gonna a jump or regress. I thought I stated that clearly. Why get worked up over what we don't know? Trust the process.

This time of year we should not be fretting over new kids. We should be evaluating three drafts prior.

I jus can't call someone idiotic when I'm ignorant myself. That's just me. I give folks benefit of doubt.

That said, I'm hoping the board shows elite players on defense. I feel that's where we need more players for Mike Pettine. Healthy ones!

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

5 years ago

#93

I wish people on this forum would stfu about Hyde and Randall. I'm tired of pointing out how awful Hyde was and most of us wanted Randall straight cut midway through last season

Originally Posted by: gbguy20

I think some aren't happy unless they are bitching lol

KRK
Veteran Member

5 years ago

#94

sorry about your sensitivities
in the post i was asking which players from whom we should expect a step up. I am still waiting for possibilites regarding whom we should expect a step up from our talent laden defensive roster, esp at the CB or linebacker
Hyde certainly did. So did Hayward

In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK

DoddPower
Veteran Member

5 years ago

#95

Originally Posted by: KRK

There's no guarantee that any non-Rosen player that the Packers may draft at 14 will turn out to be anything more than a bust either. They could easily be the next Justin Harrell or Sherrod. Trust the board and get the best football player based on months and years of scouting. If that's Rosen, take him. If not, then don't. Pretty simple.

Drafting for need is stupid. Get the best football players. If a team consistently does that and fills glaring holes via free agency and trades, they are likely to be a good football team. I agree that if it was five years ago, taking someone like Rosen would be stupid. But if the Packers believe he could be the next Tom Brady or Drew Brees, not taking him now would be stupid. Rodgers is aging and there is absolutely no guarantee that he will return to his previous form after his injury.

Regardless of Rosen, the Packers need a very good insurance policy for Rodgers. I'm a huge Rodgers fan, but there are substantial question marks. Perhaps he puts all those to rest this season, but they exist for now. Hundley isn't worth the practice squad. Kizer may eventually be an acceptable #2 or good #3, but there's certainly no guarantee he'll be more, and he may not even be that. QB is still a need.

Project five years in the future. If somehow Rosen falls, the Packers pass, and he turns out to be the next elite QB, would we not regret that? I suppose we may not if Rodgers and the Packers win another Super Bowl or two in the meantime, but that's a long shot. The thought of the Packers having three generational franchise QBs back-to-back is quite enticing.

beast
Select Member

5 years ago

#96

So why is Arizona currently out of the running to trade up for a quarterback? As one source explained it to PFT, the Cardinals’ biggest impediment is that they have the 15th overall pick in a 12-player draft.

There’s a donut hole after the first dozen players, with no one in the top 12 feeling all that great about landing at No. 15. So any team that slide out of the top tier of players will want more to make up for the dip that is expected.

profootballtalk.nbcsports.com wrote:

So it's seen as a 12 player top tier.

My guess who they see as the top 12.

1. Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
2. Quenton Nelson, OG, Notre Dame
3. Bradley Chubb, DE, N.C. State
4. Roquan Smith, LB, Georgia
5. Minkah Fitzpatrick, S, Alabama
6. Derwin James, S, Florida State
7. Sam Darnold, QB, USC
8. Mike McGlinchey, OT, Notre Dame
9. Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming
10. Vita Vea, DT, Washington

11. Tremaine Edmunds, LB, Virginia Tech
12. Jaire Alexander, CB, Louisville
13. Rashaan Evans, LB, Alabama
14. Marcus Davenport, DE, UTSA
15. Denzel Ward, CB, Ohio State
16. Da'Ron Payne, DT, Alabama
17. James Daniels, C, Iowa
18. Harold Landry, DE, Boston College
19. Frank Ragnow, C, Arkansas
20. Leighton Vander Esch, LB, Boise State

21. Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA
22. Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
23. Lamar Jackson, QB, Louisville
24. Isaiah Wynn, OL, Georgia
25. D.J. Moore, WR, Maryland

Mike Mayock's Big Board wrote:

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

5 years ago

#97

Originally Posted by: KRK

Hyde and Hayward excelled under new defensive coordinators,right? Why can't the DB's we have now excel with new coordinator?

Cheesey
Preferred Member

5 years ago

#98

Traded away our pick. First time in years we had a pick in the top 14, and they trade it.
Looks like Ted is still in charge.
Frustrating.

sschind
Senior Member

5 years ago

#99

Traded away our pick. First time in years we had a pick in the top 14, and they trade it.
Looks like Ted is still in charge.
Frustrating.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey

Could have had James or Edmunds. oh well, at least we have 14 picks now.

KRK
Veteran Member

5 years ago

#100

for a first rounder next year....I think its a good move. Hopefully several great players are still available at 27.

In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK

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