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nerdmann  
#21 Posted : Tuesday, June 5, 2018 11:42:40 AM(UTC)
TheKanataThrilla said: Go to Quoted Post
Or maybe we can have the GM deal with all the high paid talent that don't live up to their paycheque. I find it funny that I see so much posting about how Aaron should free up cap space in order to win a Super Bowl while completely ignoring all the cap space of players like Matthews, Perry, Cobb and Bulaga who all play well below their worth in salaries.


Everyone cried when he released Jordy.
TheKanataThrilla  
#22 Posted : Tuesday, June 5, 2018 11:54:45 AM(UTC)
nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
Everyone cried when he released Jordy.


The one guy that they could have reduced his salary to a reasonable amount instead of asking him to take a vet minimum.

Nonstopdrivel  
#23 Posted : Tuesday, June 5, 2018 2:18:41 PM(UTC)
After the obscene amount of potential talent Gutekunst has brought in to replace Nelson, I would hope no one is still mourning his departure.
DoddPower  
#24 Posted : Tuesday, June 5, 2018 2:55:28 PM(UTC)
nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
If that happens, it’s because Aaron himself has sucked all the cap money out.

You gonna pay a guy to suck all the money out of your cap and then go elsewhere to a team that “still has a chance?”


Teams can easily make this work for a season or two. With an old QB that comes off the books completely after that, it wouldn't be that big of a deal. Push a lot of the others players money into later years.
dhazer  
#25 Posted : Tuesday, June 5, 2018 4:23:52 PM(UTC)
gbguy20 said: Go to Quoted Post
Seems to be more likely to have a clause that triggers an adjustment (see: Raise) than an opt out. No way we let him ever become a free agent.


Why not let him become a free agent when he is 38? He has 2 years left on his current contract and can be franchised twice. Teams do franchise star qbs like Drew Brees. Why give him a huge contract and strap our team so we won't make another Super Bowl, when we don't even know how his collar bones are going to hold up.

dhazer  
#26 Posted : Tuesday, June 5, 2018 4:25:48 PM(UTC)
Nonstopdrivel said: Go to Quoted Post
After the obscene amount of potential talent Gutekunst has brought in to replace Nelson, I would hope no one is still mourning his departure.


who did he bring in? A washed up old TE that hasn't done anything since he left NO and a bunch of rookies to replace Rodger's favorite wr.

Zero2Cool  
#27 Posted : Tuesday, June 5, 2018 5:24:44 PM(UTC)
dhazer said: Go to Quoted Post
who did he bring in? A washed up old TE that hasn't done anything since he left NO and a bunch of rookies to replace Rodger's favorite wr.


-- Proven talent --
TE Jimmy Graham - only DeAndre Hopkins had more TD's than him last season.
TE Marcedes Lewis - considered one of the best blocking TE's in the NFL.


-- Unproven talent --
WR Marquez Valdes-Scantling HT: 6-5 WT: 209 40-yard dash: 4.37
WR Equanimeous St. Brown HT: 6-4 3/4 WT: 218 40-yard dash: 4.48
WR J'mon Moore HT: 6-2 5/8 WT: 207, 40-yard dash: 4.49


Lots of talent and it'll be up to Joe Philbin, Mike McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers to maximize it.

nerdmann  
#28 Posted : Tuesday, June 5, 2018 7:05:28 PM(UTC)
dhazer said: Go to Quoted Post
Why not let him become a free agent when he is 38? He has 2 years left on his current contract and can be franchised twice. Teams do franchise star qbs like Drew Brees. Why give him a huge contract and strap our team so we won't make another Super Bowl, when we don't even know how his collar bones are going to hold up.



Let’s see if Rodgers’ body can still take the NFL level of pounding for a full season.
Nonstopdrivel  
#29 Posted : Wednesday, June 6, 2018 1:18:57 PM(UTC)
Joel Corry, a former agent, has some interesting things to say about this topic over at CBS Sports. He says two nonstarters -- Chase Daniels and Nick Foles -- currently have opt-out clauses in their contracts, but both feature rather steep buyout prices. He believes that in order for Rodgers to get the opt-out he's seeking, he'd have to agree to pay a huge buyout, something he doesn't think Rodgers will be willing to do. (I agree with him.). He also mentions that Earl Bennett had an opt-out clause in his contract with the Bears back in 2011, but it would have cost him $20 million. Imagine how much Green Bay would demand from Rodgers!

Corry also makes a pretty compelling case that if Rodgers refuses to budge, it would be in Green Bay's best interest simply to ride out the next two years and then slap the exclusive-rights and franchise tags on him for the next two years. Ironically, as fast as quarterback salaries have risen in the past year or two, it would actually be cheaper for them to pay the tag penalty than to extend him a more lucrative offer sheet than the one Matt Ryan just signed.

Food for thought.
nerdmann  
#30 Posted : Wednesday, June 6, 2018 2:56:00 PM(UTC)
Nonstopdrivel said: Go to Quoted Post
Joel Corry, a former agent, has some interesting things to say about this topic over at CBS Sports. He says two nonstarters -- Chase Daniels and Nick Foles -- currently have opt-out clauses in their contracts, but both feature rather steep buyout prices. He believes that in order for Rodgers to get the opt-out he's seeking, he'd have to agree to pay a huge buyout, something he doesn't think Rodgers will be willing to do. (I agree with him.). He also mentions that Earl Bennett had an opt-out clause in his contract with the Bears back in 2011, but it would have cost him $20 million. Imagine how much Green Bay would demand from Rodgers!

Corry also makes a pretty compelling case that if Rodgers refuses to budge, it would be in Green Bay's best interest simply to ride out the next two years and then slap the exclusive-rights and franchise tags on him for the next two years. Ironically, as fast as quarterback salaries have risen in the past year or two, it would actually be cheaper for them to pay the tag penalty than to extend him a more lucrative offer sheet than the one Matt Ryan just signed.

Food for thought.


This is all about being the "highest paid player." THAT is what Aaron wants.

So here is the deal: WIN THE SUPERBOWL, and you get to be the highest paid player in league history. REPEAT, and be the highest paid plus an extra $5mill. THREEPEAT and everytime someone's contract gets higher than yours, it will be re-adjusted.

BOOM.
sschind  
#31 Posted : Thursday, June 7, 2018 5:16:25 AM(UTC)
nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
This is all about being the "highest paid player." THAT is what Aaron wants.

So here is the deal: WIN THE SUPERBOWL, and you get to be the highest paid player in league history. REPEAT, and be the highest paid plus an extra $5mill. THREEPEAT and everytime someone's contract gets higher than yours, it will be re-adjusted.

BOOM.


That sounds good to us fans but what if the team is not good enough to win a SB. Gute has been making some changes and hopefully the team is improving but there are many who think Ted did nothing to help Rodgers win. If I was a QB and that is the way I saw things I'd be reluctant to pin my paycheck on on something like that. I'm fine with escalator clauses but usually they are added enticements on top of more traditional compensation. Especially when they are tied to team accomplishments. Make the pro bowl make an extra million sure that sounds good to a player because he has some control. Winning the SB is something any individual player has less control over.

nerdmann  
#32 Posted : Thursday, June 7, 2018 6:19:35 AM(UTC)
sschind said: Go to Quoted Post
That sounds good to us fans but what if the team is not good enough to win a SB. Gute has been making some changes and hopefully the team is improving but there are many who think Ted did nothing to help Rodgers win. If I was a QB and that is the way I saw things I'd be reluctant to pin my paycheck on on something like that. I'm fine with escalator clauses but usually they are added enticements on top of more traditional compensation. Especially when they are tied to team accomplishments. Make the pro bowl make an extra million sure that sounds good to a player because he has some control. Winning the SB is something any individual player has less control over.



I bet he’d start hitting the open guy on a regular basis.
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