Zero2Cool
5 years ago
Yes, Kirk Cousins is a better QB than Case Keenum, but look how well Case played during the 2017 season.

Case went 325 out of 481 attempts for 67.6% (2nd in NFL) in 14 starts.
3,547 yards passing (12th in NFL)
22 TD's (12th in NFL)
7 INT's which is basically 1 pick every two games he started or 4th best in NFL


What do you think? I am just not worried about the addition to Kirk, in fact, I'm kind of happy they lost Pat Shurmur and Case Keenum in place of a guy they are paying something like $28 million each of the next three seasons. I'm hoping the money spent on QB is going to hurt that asshole defense.
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nerdmann
5 years ago
I’d take Cousins over Keenum.

Here’s my take: Everyone wants to anoint the Vikings, because of last year. But the only way they got past us was by taking a cheap shot on Aaron. They’re not all that.

If Aaron can just hit the open guy OR if we can keep an active T on the roster, maybe we can get back to reality this year.
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DarkaneRules
5 years ago
Fear their defense. That's what put Aaron out of commission last year. Hope that our new makeup on offense allows us to attack it better.
Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance
Zero2Cool
5 years ago

I’d take Cousins over Keenum.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Do you think the $28 million is going to get you more wins than what Keenum got you at a fraction of that cost? I thought he played pretty damn well and they have that RB coming back who I think is gonna be pretty solid.
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sschind
5 years ago
Like you said, Cousins is a better QB but Keenum had a career year last year so my take is that the vikings are probably not going to get much more out of the QB position than they got last year. On the other hand it is less likely they will have a drop off. In other words Cousins is more likely to produce the same stats they had last year than had Keenum would have had in replicating them. For that reason I wish they would have kept Keenum. Also I think Cousins may have a better chance at making Diggs and Theilen improve.

Still, it's not the QB position that worries me about the vikings. It is their defense #1 and the potential impact that Dalvin Cook could have if he comes back strong. People say its a passing game and the running game doesn't matter but the quality of your QB has a lot to do with that. An elite QB certainly can make a running game less important but if your QB is not elite a strong running game can help him immensely. I think the cowboys are in the same boat as the vikings. and average or maybe slightly above average QB is helped greatly by a much better than average running back.
Cheesey
5 years ago
He might be a better QB, but to me the question is : will he mesh with the other offensive players? If they don’t like him, or he doesn’t like them, then it could collapse on the Vikings. (I hope!)🤣
Or maybe now that he got his big payday, maybe he won’t produce like they hope.
Honestly, I don’t see what the big deal is about Cousins. Really, what has he done to deserve all the accolades?
They make it sound like he’s Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers combined.
I don’t understand it.
He might be an ok QB, but it’s not like he’s won a bunch of Super Bowls.
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Bigbyfan
5 years ago
No... living in the DC area, I had to watch this guy every week. He was okay in between the 20s but was a scrub in the red zone. He got a lot of his stats during garbage time as well.

I was actually excited that the Vikings fully committed to him for three years.
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Bigbyfan
5 years ago
There is a reason the Redskins never signed him to an extension... You don't see franchise quarterbacks hit free agency.
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isocleas2
5 years ago

There is a reason the Redskins never signed him to an extension... You don't see franchise quarterbacks hit free agency.

Originally Posted by: Bigbyfan 



The Redskins messed the negotiations up big time, they lowballed him and didn't want to include guaranteed money passed year 2. By the time they realized they should have ponied up it was too late they were negotiating against a 34 million franchise tag. If they would have made a decent offer 3 years ago they would have saved millions.

Keenum had a great year but Cousins is the better qb, Vikings will be slightly better on offense and more consistent.
nerdmann
5 years ago
I’d have probably gone with Bridgewater, but I don’t see how he practices, how he conducts himself off the field, how his knee is rehabbing, I’m not privvy to any of that.

Fact is, it seems to me the Vikings have gone “all in” for a shot at the title. If we can keep at least one active T on the roster, we should be able to bring them back down to reality. I mean they’re good, but they obviously are buying in to their own hype.
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