beast
5 years ago
Just a thought I had... which would you rather trade?

Trade a 1st round and another mid-high pick for LB Khalil Mack
OR Trade a 2nd round pick pick for FS Earl Thomas


I think I might be more interested in Earl Thomas because I think he might be the best at his position in the NFL and this defensive scheme is all about being able to coverage with the minimum number, while using tricks to get favorable match-ups up front.

I believe the Seahawks were rumored to be asking for a 2nd round pick, and the Cowboys countered with a 3rd round pick and the Seahawks weren't interested (probably because they MIGHT get a 3rd round pick with comp pick, while keeping him another season).
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nerdmann
5 years ago

Just a thought I had... which would you rather trade?

Trade a 1st round and another mid-high pick for LB Khalil Mack
OR Trade a 2nd round pick pick for FS Earl Thomas


I think I might be more interested in Earl Thomas because I think he might be the best at his position in the NFL and this defensive scheme is all about being able to coverage with the minimum number, while using tricks to get favorable match-ups up front.

I believe the Seahawks were rumored to be asking for a 2nd round pick, and the Cowboys countered with a 3rd round pick and the Seahawks weren't interested (probably because they MIGHT get a 3rd round pick with comp pick, while keeping him another season).

Originally Posted by: beast 



How old is Earl Thomas. I'd be open to that.
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steveishere
5 years ago

Just a thought I had... which would you rather trade?

Trade a 1st round and another mid-high pick for LB Khalil Mack
OR Trade a 2nd round pick pick for FS Earl Thomas


I think I might be more interested in Earl Thomas because I think he might be the best at his position in the NFL and this defensive scheme is all about being able to coverage with the minimum number, while using tricks to get favorable match-ups up front.

I believe the Seahawks were rumored to be asking for a 2nd round pick, and the Cowboys countered with a 3rd round pick and the Seahawks weren't interested (probably because they MIGHT get a 3rd round pick with comp pick, while keeping him another season).

Originally Posted by: beast 



another aspect since you'd want to sign either to a few more years is top S money is about 13m where Mack no doubt is looking for Von Miller money which is 19m
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beast
5 years ago

How old is Earl Thomas. I'd be open to that.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 


He's 29... so two years older than Mack, but I think coverage is the most important part of this scheme... and Thomas not only has played well himself but normally has help covered up for mistakes from others too.

another aspect since you'd want to sign either to a few more years is top S money is about 13m where Mack no doubt is looking for Von Miller money which is 19m

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



Another good point, possibly saving about 6 million per year right there.

And then Haha, could play SS and maybe Jones would get more time to learn Safety (and maybe be used more at coverage LB which he seemed best at, least year).
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blueleopard
5 years ago
The Saints are a good team. So are the Packers. Both those #1 picks are going to be in the 20s.

Mack was a Top 5 pick. There is no realistic way that these two picks are equal to a top 5 pick, especially someone like Mack. I would take this in a heartbeat. He's a Top 3 Pass Rusher in this league, and they're hard to find.

Yes, we have Gutekunst, but still under Thompson our first round picks never ended up being world beaters--the only real exceptions being Rodgers, Matthews, and arguably Raji.

Mack would be the way to go especially with Cobb and Matthews accounting for a big portion of gained cap money after next season. Having Mack and Matthews on the same defense for at least one season would be ideal.
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stevegb
5 years ago

The Saints are a good team. So are the Packers. Both those #1 picks are going to be in the 20s.

Mack was a Top 5 pick. There is no realistic way that these two picks are equal to a top 5 pick, especially someone like Mack. I would take this in a heartbeat. He's a Top 3 Pass Rusher in this league, and they're hard to find.

Yes, we have Gutekunst, but still under Thompson our first round picks never ended up being world beaters--the only real exceptions being Rodgers, Matthews, and arguably Raji.

Mack would be the way to go especially with Cobb and Matthews accounting for a big portion of gained cap money after next season. Having Mack and Matthews on the same defense for at least one season would be ideal.

Originally Posted by: blueleopard 



Question is would you pay him one of the highest defensive contracts in history though, because that's why hes on the block in the first place.
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5 years ago

The Saints are a good team. So are the Packers. The Saints #1 pick will be around 29th while Green Bay's will be #32.

Mack was a Top 5 pick. There is no realistic way that these two picks are equal to a top 5 pick, especially someone like Mack. I would take this in a heartbeat. He's a Top 3 Pass Rusher in this league, and they're hard to find.

Yes, we have Gutekunst, but still under Thompson our first round picks never ended up being world beaters--the only real exceptions being Rodgers, Matthews, and arguably Raji.

Mack would be the way to go especially with Cobb and Matthews accounting for a big portion of gained cap money after next season. Having Mack and Matthews on the same defense for at least one season would be ideal.

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beast
5 years ago

Question is would you pay him one of the highest defensive contracts in history though, because that's why hes on the block in the first place.

Originally Posted by: stevegb 



Would you trade two late 1st round picks (in a draft that is said to have a great DL/edge rusher draft class, for the rights to give Mack a 100 million dollar contract? And rumor is he wants the highest contract in defensive history.

Note, almost all defenders have struggled after getting 100 million...

DT Albert Haynesworth, Marcell Dareus, a boy named Suh, I believe all these guys failed to finish their 100 million contracts.

JJ Watt and Justin Houston are very talented players who have mostly struggled with injuries since getting the mega contract.

Von Miller has almost been the only successful ones and of course they have struggled to get an offense after paying the high priced defense, just like the Seahawks.
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nerdmann
5 years ago

Question is would you pay him one of the highest defensive contracts in history though, because that's why hes on the block in the first place.

Originally Posted by: stevegb 



I think of Mack as a down lineman, but his number is 53 or something like that isn’t it? I mean, can he stand up and cover? Could he be an edge rushing OLB?
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Zero2Cool
5 years ago
Didn't Khalil Mack make All-Pro at two different positions in the same year? DL and LB?
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