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nerdmann
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Mike has to either win the SB or make a convincing case, or he's headed to Cleveland after this year. One would think that, for once in his life, his team would show up READY TO PLAY.

If we want to keep him, we can expect more of this, regularly.
Zero2Cool
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This negativity nerds to stop. Such a downer.
rabidgopher04
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

This negativity nerds to stop. Such a downer.



True, but factually speaking they really didn't wake up until late in the game. It begged the question, "Where was THIS Packers team in the first half?"

Defense finally held it together on 4th downs. That was good to see. Seems like that had been missing over the past several years.
nerdmann
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

This negativity nerds to stop. Such a downer.



Yeah, I was the one telling everyone IT'S NOT OVER at halftime. I am NOT the one being negative here. I am just stating the FACT. Mike is auditioning for his job next year. This is something he needs to avoid. You don't spot a division rival 20 points at home.
Porforis
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A win is a win is a win. But this scripted bullshit needs to stop. Vanilla runs up the gut on 1st and 2nd down then frantic 3rd and long attempts for the first like 6 drives... Not gonna work. You have two guys that are above average WRs that also run the ball well, one that could be a starting RB. Yet neither even in the backfield for the first like, 5 drives. You play to your team's strengths, not out of any wishful thinking about what you want your team to be. This team isn't going to be a "Run it 40 times a game and rack up 200+ yards on the ground" team. It's going to be a "sling it around, and if the defense stays in dime then keep/bring Montgomery into the backfield and run it" team. If we want to win at least.
wpr
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Isn't it nerdmann the guy who wanted to cut Allison so his fav 3 underperforming rookies can play? 🤤
Zero2Cool
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Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

Yeah, I was the one telling everyone IT'S NOT OVER at halftime. I am NOT the one being negative here. I am just stating the FACT. Mike is auditioning for his job next year. This is something he needs to avoid. You don't spot a division rival 20 points at home.



That's not fact. It's your opinion. Your negative comments is why I left chat early in the game. It's the same thing every game with you. Same complaints. Over and over and over again. I can't imagine anyone who wants to partake in that.

Suppose I'm just too much of a half full guy while trying to be objective as much as my bias allows.
sschind
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You kinda have to wonder if Aaron Rodgers hadn't gotten hurt would the outcome been different. Think about it for a second. The Bears go up by 10, Aaron Rodgers is sling the ball around and trying to make everything happen to get back in it. The Bears D simply T's off and our offense gets pummeled. He gets hurt Kizer comes in and Boom we are down by 17, then 20. He comes back and is forced to go to the quick release short passing game and viola (spelled incorrectly intentionally) we win the game. Had he not gotten hurt how long would it have taken them to realize what they were doing was not working? Maybe too late. Maybe never.

I'd like to think that maybe the offense in the second half was a result of adjustments that McCarthy would have made anyway and the injury played less of a role than the announcers made it sound (Heck you would have thought Joe Theisman had returned in his game the way they were talking) but who knows.

On thing is certain, I'm glad we faced them in week 1. Once that defense has a few weeks to work together and Smith returns healthy they will be very good. Yes we took it to them in the second half but I can't help but wonder if Mack and Smith and a few others weren't getting worn out by then.

Props to the defense. They came up big and they were playing with enthusiasm. Clay's stupidity required them to make 2 stops and they did. Less than 300 yards given up (when they had 140 in the first quarter I think) 4 sacks 5 tackles for loss. A few breakdowns but you can expect that from a young team. I'll take this and build on it.

Bottom line its a solid win and even though they started out looking like crap they stayed in there. The bears played a tough game and it shows a lot to come back from that. I kinda wish it had been a 48-0 blowout but now that the victory is in the bag I think I might prefer this. Its one of those character building games. One of those wake up calls without the loss.
sschind
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

That's not fact. It's your opinion. Your negative comments is why I left chat early in the game. It's the same thing every game with you. Same complaints. Over and over and over again. I can't imagine anyone who wants to partake in that.

Suppose I'm just too much of a half full guy while trying to be objective as much as my bias allows.



It wasn't just Nerd. I'm not sure when you left but had you stuck around you would have seen a dozen people packing it in. I popped in three or four times in the second half and it was like... well you can imagine what it was like.

nerdmann
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Originally Posted by: sschind 

It wasn't just Nerd. I'm not sure when you left but had you stuck around you would have seen a dozen people packing it in. I popped in three or four times in the second half and it was like... well you can imagine what it was like.



GO back and look at the chat transcript. Nerd was the VOICE OF REASON when we got down by 20. Everyone was talking shit. Nerd knws that this team FREQUENTLY gets in this position. And 9 times out of ten they COME BACK FROM IT.

You’re welcome.
steveishere
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Honestly I couldn't give two shits about any "lull" both sides of the ball had some struggles and actually adjusted to what was going on and dominated. That's what's been missing mostly especially on defense the last few years.

We didn't just get a big stop on defense to win the game we did it twice because Clay Matthews made one of the dumbest plays I've ever seen.
rabidgopher04
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Originally Posted by: steveishere 

We didn't just get a big stop on defense to win the game we did it twice because Clay Matthews made one of the dumbest plays I've ever seen.



I thought the call was poor, not his play, but I guess that’s todays NFL. Favre used to take those hits all the time. I didn’t see what I would call roughing the passer at any point in the game.

Barfarn
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I don’t think the 1st half was a lull. They’re not going to be sharp without playing preseason; but the Bears didn’t play their starters in PS much more then GB.

SSchind hit the nail on the head, it was the injury. I dont think adjustments account for Rodgers' play or the D's. And the run/pass quantity is not scripted; just about every run play has a check to pass and vice-versa and Rodgers can always audible. Remember McCarthy cant see the D alignment when he calls a play! It Rodgers' job to check or audible out of a bad run.

The 1st half is GB when Rodgers REFUSES to execute the gameplan. He’s passing up early reads for 2-3-5-7 yards and running around like a dick, exposing himself to injury and Oops, that’s just what happened. It wasn’t the play calling; the Bears defense; the OL; McCarthy; the receivers getting separation, blah, blah blah…it was 100% Rodgers playing like a crashing Danica Dick Doll. Kizer comes in, he’s 3 for 3 and moves right down the field and he probably didn’t take a single rep this week.

GB’s O doing their 5 and out, 3 and out, 3 and out, 3 and out totaling under 20 yards bull crap keeps the GB D on the field, demoralizes the D, limits the D’s playbook and opens up the Bears O. Of course the D looks bad, when the O is so dysfunctional.

But then, Rodgers with his wrecked knee is forced to EXECUTE THE OFFENSE and it should be no surprise that the D was in a position to play better and did.

He did this a few years ago after sucking for half a season, hurt his ankle and played GOAT-like; and our D "mysteriously" played better. D's play better when the O is not 3 and outting. Last year he played great with multiple guys on OL that didn’t start the season on GB’s roster; because he had to execute the offense or he’d die. The very first game he had his starting 5 was Minnesota; he runs around like a dick, looking to make ESPN highlights and gets his collar bone broken.

McCarty needs to find a way to reign-in Rodgers; or put Jeff Gillooly on the training staff so he can take a crow bar to Rodgers’ knee when it begins to feel better.
Cheesey
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I’m glad I wasn’t at the game. Had I been there, when “feet of” Clay Matthews made that BONE HEAD late hit on Tru-biscuit, I would have jumped onto the field and kicked him between the legs.
He better pay Nick Perry for bailing him out with his 4th down strip.
You would think by now he would be smart enough not to do something so STUPID.
blueleopard
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The Bears aren't the same shitty Bears we've been dealing with for the last half decade. Trubisky seems to actually care, and their defense was well put together through the draft and free agency.

In the meantime the Packers just aren't as good as we like to make them out to be. Believe it or not, the other team is trying. Give McCarthy credit for maintaining composure. Two things would've caused the Packers to lose here -- Fuller getting that interception (which you can't pin on McCarthy) or Matthews roughing call.
Zero2Cool
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Originally Posted by: sschind 

It wasn't just Nerd. I'm not sure when you left but had you stuck around you would have seen a dozen people packing it in. I popped in three or four times in the second half and it was like... well you can imagine what it was like.



I don't blame people for packing it in, shit looked bleak as hell. Usually, that's when nerdmann flips his script. If Packers are doing good, he's flooding the chat with watch the fake, lull, patented x or patented y.

It's the first game of the season. Am I the only one just excited to have real actual football back?

This was my Sunday, plus re-coding the NFL Picks LiveScores since the NFL decided to change their crap from XML to JSON.


Let's not get things twisted here. I'm not saying down 20 - 0 we should be sick green goggles people. Hell no, be salty, be pissed, be upset. But why flood the chat every 30 seconds with the same negative stuff over and over and over?

Maybe my excitement of "OMG football is back!" forced unrealistic expectations on fellow fans. Maybe that's true, and if so, I apologize nerdmann. I just think you have a lot more worth-reading comments than the negative stuff I had seen filling up the chat.

Cheesey
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Had I been in the chat, you would have seen that I wasn’t very happy with the play on both sides of the ball in the first half. I was even considering turning off the TV. But I just couldn’t give up.
I would have been mad at myself had I missed that crazy win!
By the way....I don’t have a computer at home, only my wife’s phone.
How do I get into the chat? I don’t see anything on the screen where it says “enter chat”.
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Click on the "hamburger" icon at the top right corner and select "Chat."
Porforis
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

This negativity nerds to stop. Such a downer.



Fair enough, but like... Can people not point out a perpetual problem with Mike McCarthy? It does get tiring seeing the same ineffective scripted plays early in games game after game. Saying that he's auditioning for his job is pretty extreme but a lot of the early-game playcalling has been mind-numbingly ineffective for years.
sschind
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Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

GO back and look at the chat transcript. Nerd was the VOICE OF REASON when we got down by 20. Everyone was talking shit. Nerd knws that this team FREQUENTLY gets in this position. And 9 times out of ten they COME BACK FROM IT.

You’re welcome.



Yeah, you save all your negativity for between the games.

Porforis
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Can we please focus on the topic onhand versus the habits of individual posters? There's plenty of room for discussion here, even without being negative.
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