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warhawk  
#21 Posted : Thursday, September 13, 2018 8:42:45 AM(UTC)
I get the impression that Arod and the Packers simply don't know yet. I don't see it as a having anything to do with holding out on the Vikings or anything other than if he's good enough to go on Sunday he will. It's encouraging that Aaron Rodgers says it's getting a little better every day....on the other hand he hasn't practiced yet.
So I totally get that at this point it's probably a toss up whether he's ready Sunday or not. It does appear that they haven't found anything that would cause him to be out long term so I'm thankful for that. After watching the replay I was thinking "here we go again".
It sucks that it's the Vikes because we need at least a split with them to win the North but there will still be 14 more games so that really can't enter into what they finally decide.


Zero2Cool  
#22 Posted : Thursday, September 13, 2018 9:03:27 AM(UTC)
warhawk said: Go to Quoted Post
I get the impression that Arod and the Packers simply don't know yet. I don't see it as a having anything to do with holding out on the Vikings or anything other than if he's good enough to go on Sunday he will. It's encouraging that Aaron Rodgers says it's getting a little better every day....on the other hand he hasn't practiced yet.
So I totally get that at this point it's probably a toss up whether he's ready Sunday or not. It does appear that they haven't found anything that would cause him to be out long term so I'm thankful for that. After watching the replay I was thinking "here we go again".
It sucks that it's the Vikes because we need at least a split with them to win the North but there will still be 14 more games so that really can't enter into what they finally decide.


Maybe the Jedi mind games have some effect?
wpr  
#23 Posted : Thursday, September 13, 2018 9:59:40 AM(UTC)
warhawk said: Go to Quoted Post
I get the impression that Arod and the Packers simply don't know yet. I don't see it as a having anything to do with holding out on the Vikings or anything other than if he's good enough to go on Sunday he will. It's encouraging that Aaron Rodgers says it's getting a little better every day....on the other hand he hasn't practiced yet.
So I totally get that at this point it's probably a toss up whether he's ready Sunday or not. It does appear that they haven't found anything that would cause him to be out long term so I'm thankful for that. After watching the replay I was thinking "here we go again".
It sucks that it's the Vikes because we need at least a split with them to win the North but there will still be 14 more games so that really can't enter into what they finally decide.




What?? You are not a conspiracy theorist? Don't you think GB is intentionally withholding valuable information in order to confound and confuse the vikies? I mean, Minny has to be perplexed not knowing who to prepare for. Surely they HAVE to prepare for both a HoF type QB along with a run of the mill average-mediocre calibre QB. (who might get better "some day".) They have to be losing sleep every night over this quandary they are in. Wink
Zero2Cool  
#24 Posted : Thursday, September 13, 2018 10:36:41 AM(UTC)
wpr said: Go to Quoted Post
What?? You are not a conspiracy theorist? Don't you think GB is intentionally withholding valuable information in order to confound and confuse the vikies? I mean, Minny has to be perplexed not knowing who to prepare for. Surely they HAVE to prepare for both a HoF type QB along with a run of the mill average-mediocre calibre QB. (who might get better "some day".) They have to be losing sleep every night over this quandary they are in. Wink


They know they are going to face Aaron Rodgers, but the cerebral quick passing Rodgers or the extending play Rodgers? That sounds small, but it's pretty huge when game planning. To exaggerate the importance, think of it as planning for Michael Vick vs Eli Manning. One stands in the pocket, the other makes plays outside of the pocket. This isn't something that's going to kill the Vikings, but for game planning, it absolutely matters. Do you play press to stop quick passes and then to find out he can roll out? Do you play soft knowing your defense is going to get push from the middle or the edge or a blitz and try to jump a pass?

There's a lot they game plan for. (not that you didn't know already, but just for anyone who may not be cognizant)
Cheesey  
#25 Posted : Thursday, September 13, 2018 10:50:23 AM(UTC)
I can see both sides of this. To me, the Vikings can spend about 10 minutes to prepare for Kizer. (Half of which could be used for the laugh track) and the rest of their time on Rodgers.
I’m pretty sure Aaron Rodgers won’t be very mobile, so they can plan for that.
The real planning better be by the Packers IF Rodgers is in fact playing, to make sure he can get rid of the ball FAST, so he doesn’t get KILLED!
sschind  
#26 Posted : Thursday, September 13, 2018 11:47:18 AM(UTC)
wpr said: Go to Quoted Post
What?? You are not a conspiracy theorist? Don't you think GB is intentionally withholding valuable information in order to confound and confuse the vikies? I mean, Minny has to be perplexed not knowing who to prepare for. Surely they HAVE to prepare for both a HoF type QB along with a run of the mill average-mediocre calibre QB. (who might get better "some day".) They have to be losing sleep every night over this quandary they are in. Wink


I'm sure they are preparing for both. They are giving 99% of their preparation towards facing Rodgers and the other 1% trying to decide who should cater the victory dinner if its Kizer.

Zero2Cool  
#27 Posted : Thursday, September 13, 2018 11:58:47 AM(UTC)
Cheesey said: Go to Quoted Post
I can see both sides of this. To me, the Vikings can spend about 10 minutes to prepare for Kizer. (Half of which could be used for the laugh track) and the rest of their time on Rodgers.
I’m pretty sure Aaron Rodgers won’t be very mobile, so they can plan for that.
The real planning better be by the Packers IF Rodgers is in fact playing, to make sure he can get rid of the ball FAST, so he doesn’t get KILLED!


They are absolutely not preparing for DeShonne Kizer. He has not shown that he can beat you. I would bet your hairline on line that!

What they are preparing to do is (speculation here) get pressure up the middle. If they get pressure up the middle and Rodgers burns them, they will gauge how mobility. Oh shit he's moving REALLY good! We need to adjust our plan to the mobile plan. If they see him hobbling around, they will have their corners press and play tighter with the same pressure up the middle. I say up the middle because I believe the Guards are the weak spot vs their strength on the DL. Rodgers is very capable of stepping up into a pocket and murdering you if you try to collapse the pocket from the outside.

Does the injury to Rodgers leg hurt the Packers ore Vikings more? I think the Vikings, only marginally because once they see Rodgers can move just fine vs can't move just fine, they will switch their game plan.

What I'm saying is the first quarter is going to be the deciding factor in how the Vikings play quarters 2, 3 and 4.

The Packers should play possum a little bit. Keep Rodgers out from practicing to give the illusion he can't scramble at all. Then the offense use a quick passing game over and over again until you see the defense open up and then on a crucial third down Rodgers scrambles to get the first down to seal the win!

Okay, I drifted off into dream land there, but I hope I gave my point of view adequately. Even though it might be wrong.
Cheesey  
#28 Posted : Thursday, September 13, 2018 5:44:07 PM(UTC)
Don’t worry Zero.....if your point of view is wrong I’m sure SOMEONE will be sure to point it out!LOL Laugh LOL
Bigbyfan  
#29 Posted : Thursday, September 13, 2018 5:51:03 PM(UTC)
I'm 100% the Vikings would rather go against Kizer totally unprepared opposed to playing against Rodgers with a week's worth of preparation.
Smokey  
#30 Posted : Friday, September 14, 2018 9:36:41 AM(UTC)
Bigbyfan said: Go to Quoted Post
I'm 100% the Vikings would rather go against Kizer totally unprepared opposed to playing against Rodgers with a week's worth of preparation.


I too would prefer to see Rodgers lead the Packers against the Vikings on Sunday. However the exact extent of Rodgers injury is a highly guarded secret. In addition, he did not practice on Wednesday or Thursday. Fridays practice may/may not be the telling factor that points to weather #12 will play.

Rodgers may be willing to play with a less than game ready left knee, but the question remains weather McCarthy would be willing to risk more injury to GB's star player to gain a win. IMO, Rodgers injury while not season ending, is bad enough to not risk his and the Packers future by playing him this week.
Cheesey  
#31 Posted : Friday, September 14, 2018 6:36:01 PM(UTC)
If they were willing to put him back out there, when they were down 20-0, and Rodgers was getting creamed, why wouldn’t they put him out there fully prepared with his injury and the score 0-0?
Doesn’t make much sense to me.
earthquake  
#32 Posted : Friday, September 14, 2018 6:46:02 PM(UTC)
Cheesey said: Go to Quoted Post
If they were willing to put him back out there, when they were down 20-0, and Rodgers was getting creamed, why wouldn’t they put him out there fully prepared with his injury and the score 0-0?
Doesn’t make much sense to me.


Yeah this is what I keep coming back to. If his injury is bad enough to keep him out of the Vikings game, it would have been supremely negligent to put him back in the Bears game. So I fully expect him to play.

Which makes me think his injury isn't all that bad, but maybe they did more tests and found something to be worried about after the Bears game. Who knows. In any case the Packers have professionals (actual doctors with degrees and everything) to consult with, so I would think it's safe to say they have a pretty good idea of the severity, and are in a good position to weigh that risk.
Smokey  
#33 Posted : Friday, September 14, 2018 7:51:04 PM(UTC)
A few years ago I experienced a similar injury to that which A.Rodgers had. In fact it was the left knee as well that I fell and injured. At first I stood right back up with the normal pain one would experience like if they banged their knee against a table or chair. I continued about my business, even climbing a set of stairs. However after a while the knee began to throb and swell. It got so bad that the knee swelled to twice the normal size and I got help to an Emergency room.

It was still early on a weekday, so the Emergency Room Dr. sent me directly to an Orthopedic Specialist. They x-rayed and drained the fluid away with a huge syringe. In my case I had a hairline crack across my kneecap. I was fitted with a knee brace, provided with crutches, and had to return the next day to again have the fluid drained away.

The point is that my kneecap injury, being the primary injury, was not the hardest part of my recovery. The hardest part was dealing with how my body was healing itself. Yes I was indeed injured, but what my body was doing in and around that injury was what most severely limited my activity level for weeks.

No one has reported that Rodgers has broken anything, yet a sprain or deep muscle bruise would react the same way that my knee did. I have also seen this same thing with others that have had knee injuries. Rodgers "sprain" may not be that serious, but I'd bet that his knee is very stiff and his mobility is limited. I would not think that any amount of therapy will have any effect upon how Rodgers body is healing itself. I don't expect him to play against the Vikings and he may not even return until the Buffalo game.

Shrug
packerfanoutwest  
#34 Posted : Saturday, September 15, 2018 6:44:22 AM(UTC)
a tad off topic, but can you imagine if you or anyone else, knew if he was or wasn't going to play, the kind of money you could make in Vegas?
Cheesey  
#35 Posted : Saturday, September 15, 2018 9:50:31 AM(UTC)
I don’t think anyone has seen Rodgers hobbling around at Lambeau. He hasn’t practiced, but no reports of crutches or anything.
When I got hit by a car, I got a deep bone bruise. It’s been 5 years, and my knee has never been the same. If I twist a little on it, it gives out on me.
Of course I’m not a multi millionaire QB with doctors surrounding me to fix it.
I think he will play tomorrow, and the game plan will be like last weeks 2nd half.
Dulak  
#36 Posted : Saturday, September 15, 2018 11:43:53 AM(UTC)
packerfanoutwest said: Go to Quoted Post
a tad off topic, but can you imagine if you or anyone else, knew if he was or wasn't going to play, the kind of money you could make in Vegas?


I dont think it would help much ... If I were a betting man not betting on the packers Id probably take the Viks but I cant bet against my team.

If its hundley I was almost going to say ... Kizer its almost for sure a win for the vikes,
and if its rodgers then we have a semi injured rodgers against lets say the #3 team in the NFL with a great d and a great o.

be an interesting game if rodgers is playing ...

wpr  
#37 Posted : Saturday, September 15, 2018 1:41:32 PM(UTC)
There is something that I think most fans are missing. After reading posts here and on other sites it seems that most fans equate Rodgers starting the game with playing 100% of the offensive snaps. That is not necessarily the case.

Even if Aaron is only at 40% of his ability (I think he is probably closer to 65-70%) he IS going to start. His leadership, track record and determination won't allow for anything less than at least giving it a try. It doesn't matter if it's Minneysoda or the 2017 Brownies. Aaron is a winner and he will try to play no matter what. Well the one exception would be in week 16-17 if GB already had home field advantage locked up.

He will only come out of the game if he proves to be highly ineffective because of his knee, the defense proves to be oppressive or if he is injured even more.

Over the years there have been 100s and 1000s of examples of players coming out and giving it a try. GB fans only have to look back to Brett and his hideously bad thumb. Some like me would say he wanted the streak more than the GB win. To some degree it might be true but in reality Brett was sure he was the best chance for a GB win even with his injured thumb.

Aaron will start. The real question is will he be able to come back out for the 2nd half. It's no longer about money. He has his big payday. He has nothing left to prove other than to himself and he is highly motivativated to push himself further than anyone else can push him.
Cheesey  
#38 Posted : Saturday, September 15, 2018 2:24:57 PM(UTC)
I heard Rodgers practiced today, so I’d say he’s playing.
gbguy20  
#39 Posted : Saturday, September 15, 2018 5:00:37 PM(UTC)
Depends how he responds in the morning. He may have a dead leg from practicing on it.
Smokey  
#40 Posted : Saturday, September 15, 2018 5:10:48 PM(UTC)
Cheesey said: Go to Quoted Post
I heard Rodgers practiced today, so I’d say he’s playing.


I too would like to see a healthy Rodgers rip the hated Vikings to shreds on Sunday. However the reality may just be that it was more of an evaluation of #12's mobility than a full out practice,

McCarthy/Rodgers may just be so desperate to get a win that they will risk a less than fully mobile Rodgers health and the entire Packer's future and play the superstar vs the Vikings. Yet remember that you heard this from me, if Rodgers starts getting hit and going down because he can't move quick enough to avoid being in danger of getting a severe injury, he will get pulled faster than than a NY pickpocket could steal your wallet.

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