Time to Clean House.· Page 2

Nonstopdrivel
Preferred Member

5 years ago

This Acme Packing Company article from a couple of weeks ago looks almost prophetic now.

. . . regardless of how the rest of 2018 unfolds, Sunday’s 31-17 loss to the New England Patriots will mark the unofficial end of the Mike McCarthy era in Green Bay.

[. . . ]

. . . Sunday’s game in Foxborough underscored just how far the Packers have fallen behind their competition. While McCarthy followed a relatively straightforward game plan, the Patriots unleashed multiple trick plays and packages specifically designed to exploit their opponent’s deficiencies. Green Bay’s defense had no answer for the lightspeed no-huddle offense Tom Brady led on the opening drive, nor did the unit have any idea what to do on the James White-Julian Edelman flea flicker that set the Patriots up 2 yards away from the goal line. The difference in coaching represented the biggest (and perhaps only) meaningful difference between the two teams, an indictment of McCarthy and the staff he has assembled.

[ . . . ]

Green Bay’s management hasn’t made a public statement suggesting a hot seat for McCarthy, but their actions belie their words. Team president Mark Murphy restructured the organization this past offseason in order to give himself the power to hire and fire the head coach. At the same time, Murphy demoted longtime general manager Ted Thompson in order to install Brian Gutekunst, a move further reducing McCarthy’s ties to the front office. Sunday morning’s report that the Cleveland Browns -- a team led by a cavalcade of former Packers scouts -- see McCarthy as a possible replacement for deposed head coach Hue Jackson further reinforces the idea that Green Bay will make a change this offseason.

And while the Packers won’t formalize that decision until after their final game, the move became unavoidable in November.

Jason B. Hirschhorn wrote:

packerfanoutwest
Member

5 years ago

#12

what is happening is McCarthy is on his way out and Rodgers is doing everything he can to push him out the door. There can be no other explanation

go.pack.go.
Veteran Member

5 years ago

#13

For those saying that Rodgers isn’t doing his job, I disagree. He had an excellent game last night up until the couple of late 3rd downs where he missed the check down, and the last throw which was just a bad throw (which he admitted to in his press conference). Every QB messes up & makes bad throws, but to say that Rodgers isn’t doing his job because of a couple of plays? Come on.

nerdmann
Premier Member

5 years ago

#14

what is happening is McCarthy is on his way out and Rodgers is doing everything he can to push him out the door. There can be no other explanation

Originally Posted by: packerfanoutwest

Ake no mistake. This is calculated by aaron.

Believe he went behind Ted's back and spread the bad rumors about Ted's health to get his shit canned last year.

Then he leverages a $100 million contract in the offseason. BOOM. Now he has leverage over the franchise. They cannot cut him, or they take a $30 million cap hit for the next three years. And who will want to trade for this?

Far as I'm concerned, he is tanking on purpose, and that is BREECH OF CONTRACT. Bottom line is there is no longer anyone in the franchise who is willing or able to stand up to their dive QB. It's fucking OVER.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

go.pack.go.
Veteran Member

5 years ago

#15

Ake no mistake. This is calculated by aaron.

Believe he went behind Ted's back and spread the bad rumors about Ted's health to get his shit canned last year.

Then he leverages a $100 million contract in the offseason. BOOM. Now he has leverage over the franchise. They cannot cut him, or they take a $30 million cap hit for the next three years. And who will want to trade for this?

Far as I'm concerned, he is tanking on purpose, and that is BREECH OF CONTRACT. Bottom line is there is no longer anyone in the franchise who is willing or able to stand up to their dive QB. It's fucking OVER.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

Tanking on purpose? He had over 300 yards, 2 TD’s with a rating of 128.8. And he showed clear frustration when one of the young receivers fucked up, which has happened a lot all year. And he’s put his health on the line many times rushing for the first down. And he’s played all year with a bad knee that many wouldn’t consider playing with.

That’s hardly “tanking on purpose”.

sschind
Senior Member

5 years ago

#16

what is happening is McCarthy is on his way out and Rodgers is doing everything he can to push him out the door. There can be no other explanation

Originally Posted by: packerfanoutwest

And a lot of fans are behind him. Behind Rodgers I mean although I guess they would be behind McCarthy helping push as well. Seriously though let say McCarthy is fired after this season. I won't be upset about it other than for the circumstances that have precipitated it (losing season, failing to make the playoffs etc.) but what happens to the defense. I think its fair to say we have made strides under Pettine. Will he be retained or will the new coach replace him. What will that do to the defensive improvements.

I'm not advocating keeping McCarthy just so we don't lose Pettine because I'm sure there are other DCs out there who could do the job. Its just that after finally seeing improvements it would be tough to go back to uncertainty.

sschind
Senior Member

5 years ago

#17

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

No wonder I can't find tinfoil anywhere.

KRK
Veteran Member

5 years ago

#18

to the topic at hand, specifically Time to clean house.
To be frank with you, given the number of injuries the defense has had...Wilkerson, Perry, King, Daniels, et alia, and trading away a supposed all pro, I think it’s incredible that they have played as well as they have.
The defense, youngsters and all, appear to be very competitive and very well coached. So as far as the cries for house cleaning, at least on the defensive side of the ball, I could not disagree more. I like what Pettine has brought...ALOT
In fact, I like it so much, if the decision was made to jettison MM, MP would be my top candidate.
I recall another defensive coach, who became a head coach and was fired. When given a second chance, he has subsequently turned out to be a pretty good head coach … His name is Bill Belichick

In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK

buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

5 years ago

#19

The time to "clean house", was last February.

Mark Murphy is the one everyone should be venting at!

Murphy had a chance to make a clean sweep, New GM, New HC, new coaching staff.

What did he do?

Moved Ted to scouting(which is what he loves to do anyway).

Instead of hiring a GM with total control, he comes up with the hairbrain idea of having the new GM having no control over the HC.

I'm not sure if these moves hindered the process, but it sure hasn't panned out yet.

You want to be pissed off at someone, make it Mark Murphy!

He is the one who got us here.

I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!

steveishere
Veteran Member

5 years ago

#20

McCarthy has his pluses and minuses but he is just straight up not a good decision maker in tight games/situations. He is also inconsistent with his playcalling giving the offense no real rhythm or identity. He doesn't really call the offense to set anything up it's just scatter shot decisions over and over again. Just random passing plays with a random run here and there.

Sure Rodgers doesn't help with all the broken plays and everyone likes to point out when there's a RB ignored underneath here and there but on most of the busted plays there really isn't people getting open and if your offense requires the QB to check down that often to the RB it's still not good.

Important Information:

The PACKERSHOME uses cookies. By continuing to browse this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. More Details Close

Fan Shout

buckeyepackfan (14h) : Lions extend Penei Soul 4yrs - 112mil

buckeyepackfan (14h) : Lions extend St. Brown 4 years 120mil and

Mucky Tundra (15h) : Now look, trading up to 13 to take a TE might not seem like a good idea later but it will be later!

dfosterf (17h) : (Your trade up mock post)

dfosterf (18h) : Mucky- The only thing fun to watch would be me flipping the f out if Gute goes up to 13 and grabs Brock Bowers, lol

beast (20h) : DT Byron Murphy II, Texas... whom some believe is the next Aaron Donald (or the closest thing to Donald)

Zero2Cool (21h) : What? And who?

Mucky Tundra (24-Apr) : *sad Mucky noises*

Mucky Tundra (24-Apr) : @JoeJHoyt Murphy said he’s been told he won’t slide past pick No. 16.

wpr (23-Apr) : Just about time to watch Sonny Weaver stick it to the seahags. I never get tired of it.

Martha Careful (23-Apr) : *game plan

Martha Careful (23-Apr) : IMHO, not even close. He is not a guy you game play around.

Mucky Tundra (23-Apr) : is Aiyuk worth a 1st rounder?

Zero2Cool (23-Apr) : 49ers are seeking a 1st round pick in exchange for WR Brandon Aiyuk

Mucky Tundra (22-Apr) : Based on Gutes comments, now I don't feel as silly having 13 picks in my mock the other day

Zero2Cool (22-Apr) : Zach Wilson to Broncos.

Zero2Cool (22-Apr) : Gutekunst says he'd love to have 13 or 14 picks. He's trading back huh lol

beast (22-Apr) : Someday we'll have a draft betting scandal

beast (21-Apr) : Sometimes looking extremely amazing, sometimes looking extremely lost

beast (21-Apr) : I haven't looked into the QBs, but some have suggested Maye has some of the most extremely inconsistent tape they've seen

beast (21-Apr) : Well it also sounds like Patriots are listening to trade offers, not that seriously considering any, but listening means they aren't locked

Zero2Cool (21-Apr) : Maye needs to be AFC

Mucky Tundra (21-Apr) : Not liking the idea of the Vikings getting Maye

Zero2Cool (21-Apr) : Vikings HC joked that he may or may not have sent flowers to Bob Kraft. That's where rumor came from.

beast (21-Apr) : Can't tell if this is real or BS, but some rumors about a possible Patriots/Vikings trade for #3 overall

dfosterf (21-Apr) : One playbook to my knowledge. I was shooting for facetious.

beast (20-Apr) : I'm not sure they have different playbooks for different OL positions, and Dillard run blocking is supposedly worse than his pass blocking..

dfosterf (19-Apr) : The only problem with that is he isn't a guard either.

dfosterf (19-Apr) : Put him at right guard. That is where he will be coached. That is where he will compete. He is not even allowed to look at the LT playbook.

dfosterf (18-Apr) : Kidding aside, I hope the best for him.

dfosterf (18-Apr) : Went to a Titans board. One comment there. Not very long. I quote: "LOL" They don't sound overly upset about our aquisition.

beast (18-Apr) : OT Dillard has been absolutely horrible... like OG Newman levels

dfosterf (18-Apr) : Suit him up and have him stand in front of the big board as a draft day cautionary tale.

Zero2Cool (18-Apr) : Packers sign T Andre Dillard.

Mucky Tundra (18-Apr) : Adds most of the information this time of year comes from agents.

Mucky Tundra (18-Apr) : @RealAlexBarth Bill Belichick says accurate draft information doesn't leak from teams until about 12 hours before the draft. Adds most of th

Mucky Tundra (18-Apr) : I am very happy that for moment, Jordan Love seems like a normal human being

Zero2Cool (17-Apr) : Belichick * whatever

Zero2Cool (17-Apr) : "There's a lot of depth at Offensive Tackle and Wide Receiver." Bill Bellichick

Zero2Cool (17-Apr) : Thanks! I can't believe it's over haha

Martha Careful (16-Apr) : Congratulations

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Boom. Student Loan. $0.00. Only took about 20 years.

Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : Packers DT Kenny Clark: New defensive coordinator Jeff Hafley will 'allow us to be way more disruptive'

Zero2Cool (12-Apr) : Saints have agreed to terms on a contract with former Packers wide receiver Equanimeous St. Brown.

beast (12-Apr) : No, but of it's for legislation, then half of the country will find it evil, not good, whatever it says....

Mucky Tundra (12-Apr) : Draft is still 2 weeks away. UGH

dhazer (11-Apr) : Does anyone know of a good AI generator to create letters of Support for legislation?

Zero2Cool (11-Apr) : Gordon "Red" Batty retires as equipment manager

Zero2Cool (10-Apr) : Sounds like that's pretty certain now.

Zero2Cool (10-Apr) : Packers "at" Eagles in Brazil. Week One

Please sign in to use Fan Shout

2023 Packers Schedule

Sunday, Sep 10 @ 3:25 PM

Bears

38 - 20

Sunday, Sep 17 @ 12:00 PM

Falcons

24 - 25

Sunday, Sep 24 @ 12:00 PM

SAINTS

18 - 17

Thursday, Sep 28 @ 7:15 PM

LIONS

20 - 34

Monday, Oct 9 @ 7:15 PM

Raiders

13 - 17

Sunday, Oct 22 @ 3:25 PM

Broncos

17 - 19

Sunday, Oct 29 @ 12:00 PM

VIKINGS

10 - 24

Sunday, Nov 5 @ 12:00 PM

RAMS

20 - 3

Sunday, Nov 12 @ 12:00 PM

Steelers

19 - 23

Sunday, Nov 19 @ 12:00 PM

CHARGERS

23 - 20

Thursday, Nov 23 @ 11:30 AM

Lions

29 - 22

Sunday, Dec 3 @ 7:20 PM

CHIEFS

27 - 19

Monday, Dec 11 @ 7:15 PM

Giants

22 - 24

Sunday, Dec 17 @ 12:00 PM

BUCCANEERS

20 - 34

Sunday, Dec 24 @ 12:00 PM

Panthers

33 - 30

Sunday, Dec 31 @ 7:20 PM

Vikings

33 - 10

Sunday, Jan 7 @ 3:25 PM

BEARS

17 - 9

Sunday, Jan 14 @ 3:30 PM

Cowboys

48 - 32

Saturday, Jan 20 @ 7:15 PM

49ers

21 - 24