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KRK  
#21 Posted : Wednesday, December 5, 2018 9:35:02 AM(UTC)
As others have pointed out, he is so big on accountability, yet:
- Acted like an ass-wipe to the press, which was part of his job, esp. as assistant head coach
- Regression and total lack of development of OLB's his responsibility.

I love all the clean lockers and changes over the last 16 month....long overdue
sschind  
#22 Posted : Wednesday, December 5, 2018 9:42:42 AM(UTC)
Cheesey said: Go to Quoted Post
He got to speak his mind......it cost him his job.


I'm guessing he knew his time was coming as well and he wanted the extra 4 weeks paid vacation as well.

If I'm an assistant coach in Green Bay not named Pettine I am not looking into renewing my subscription to the Press Gazzette right now.

DoddPower  
#23 Posted : Wednesday, December 5, 2018 9:44:10 AM(UTC)
beast said: Go to Quoted Post
Your angle assume this is 100% Rodgers doing... which you have NO PROOF of... and they fact they're not letting Rodgers help in the search for a new coach probably shows that Rodgers has no control and ruins this whole conspiracy theory.


Nerd never let reason stand in the way of his conspiracy theories. Remember, EVERYTHING is a conspiracy in his world.
sschind  
#24 Posted : Wednesday, December 5, 2018 9:58:58 AM(UTC)
beast said: Go to Quoted Post
Your angle assume this is 100% Rodgers doing... which you have NO PROOF of... and they fact they're not letting Rodgers help in the search for a new coach probably shows that Rodgers has no control and ruins this whole conspiracy theory.




It still baffles me why anyone thinks they should let Rodgers help in searching for a head coach. I think everyone is afraid that if they don't get the Aaron Rodgers stamp of approval he will take his football and go home so to speak.

I don't think Aaron Rodgers "got McCarthy fired" but I do think the relationship between the two may have been a factor. If Murphy and Gute hadn't thought it was time for a change I don't think they would have pulled the trigger no matter how Rodger's felt. Knowing this I don't think they are going to be looking for a Mike McCarthy clone. I think they know what Rodgers can do and they will look for someone who can help him do it so I don't think Rodgers will have a problem with whoever they choose.

The way some people talk they (Murphy & Gute) should be saying "So Aaron, who do you want us to hire"
nerdmann  
#25 Posted : Wednesday, December 5, 2018 9:15:26 PM(UTC)
DoddPower said: Go to Quoted Post
Nerd never let reason stand in the way of his conspiracy theories. Remember, EVERYTHING is a conspiracy in his world.


Aaron drawing up plays in the dirt and free landing is well documented. All I'm saying is, if they bring someone in who is going to cater to Aaron and let him run the show, this is going to crash and burn.

Aaron needs to be reigned in, not promoted at this point.
beast  
#26 Posted : Wednesday, December 5, 2018 10:12:33 PM(UTC)
nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
Aaron drawing up plays in the dirt and free landing is well documented. All I'm saying is, if they bring someone in who is going to cater to Aaron and let him run the show, this is going to crash and burn.

Aaron needs to be reigned in, not promoted at this point.


It's well documented because it was openly promoted... some coaches, including Mike McCarthy promote smart QBs to letting them make changes and it's extremely well known Rodgers was the play caller in two minutes.

You seem to wrongly think Rodgers is out of control and you know his dirty little secret.... you know it, because it was never a secret, and your conspiracy needs to be reigned into reality.

Rodgers is a good soldier (maybe to a fault) as Jennings and others pointed out, Favre would give the WRs some cover from the coaches, Rodgers was always completely honest and never gave them cover from the coaches.

Rodgers refused to hit the checkdowns as looking for the deep ball is part of the system and they have always made it work in past years... he finally adjusted and started hitting the checkdowns.

Rodgers is not rogue and this conspiracy clearly lacks any proof.... and drawing up plays when he's the play caller and has permission to run the offense is not proof of rogue like you keep suggesting.
buckeyepackfan  
#27 Posted : Wednesday, December 5, 2018 10:38:02 PM(UTC)
Ted Thompson, John Dorsey, Alonzo Highsmith gone

Qb coach, OC, DC. Gone

Nelson, Randall, Clinton Dix gone.

McCarthy gone.

Winston Moss chose to be fired now, so he stated how he felt.

What has taken 9 months to do, should have been done before the draft last year!

Becoming quite clear to me that the plan was to clean house all along.

Most blamed McCarthy, some blamed Rodgers, while the guy that really screwed this year up is getting no blame.

Mark Murphy needs to be held accountable!
I hope I am wrong, but at this point Murphy is on his way to setting The Packers back 40 years.
The 70's and 80's were no fun.

Some Say The Packers need to hire a guy to reign in Aaron Rodgers.
I say The Packers board of directors need to fire Murphy then hire a guy who will hire a GM who can then hire his guy who will bring in his coaching staff.

Mark Murphy is your culprit!
nerdmann  
#28 Posted : Thursday, December 6, 2018 7:15:58 AM(UTC)
beast said: Go to Quoted Post
It's well documented because it was openly promoted... some coaches, including Mike McCarthy promote smart QBs to letting them make changes and it's extremely well known Rodgers was the play caller in two minutes.

You seem to wrongly think Rodgers is out of control and you know his dirty little secret.... you know it, because it was never a secret, and your conspiracy needs to be reigned into reality.

Rodgers is a good soldier (maybe to a fault) as Jennings and others pointed out, Favre would give the WRs some cover from the coaches, Rodgers was always completely honest and never gave them cover from the coaches.

Rodgers refused to hit the checkdowns as looking for the deep ball is part of the system and they have always made it work in past years... he finally adjusted and started hitting the checkdowns.

Rodgers is not rogue and this conspiracy clearly lacks any proof.... and drawing up plays when he's the play caller and has permission to run the offense is not proof of rogue like you keep suggesting.


Multiple players, as recounted on the postgame show by Bill Micheals and Gary Ellerson have stated that Rodgers calls the play, then tells one or two players to do something different. And that that is why you get two WRs in the same place, and why after Rodgers passes up his first intended reciever, there is no one else to whom to throw the ball. Maybe they were all lying.

Maybe that's the same as "freedom to change the play." Maybe throwing off your back foot, taking 12 step drops, and holding the ball for 8 seconds OS also the same thing as just calling your own plays.

Maybe no matter what happens, everything is bright and happy in Packerland and all changes are always necessarily just gonna make us better. Maybe.
Zero2Cool  
#29 Posted : Thursday, December 6, 2018 7:28:42 AM(UTC)
Winston Moss had a condo near where I live. He's an asshole of a driver. Would constantly cut me off on Velp. Wouldn't even use his blinker. That's about all I know about the guy.
beast  
#30 Posted : Thursday, December 6, 2018 9:11:51 AM(UTC)
nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
Multiple players, as recounted on the postgame show by Bill Micheals and Gary Ellerson have stated that Rodgers calls the play, then tells one or two players to do something different.


You keep using this as proof that your conspiracy is 100% correct when you completely and totally failed to provide a single person OTHER THAN YOURSELF that has a problem with it.

This conspiracy is all about YOU not liking it.... you have NEVER shown that the coaches don't like it... yet you keep pushing that false adgenda on us....

You're willfully ingoring the facts that don't agree your conspiracy.... because you put yourself over the facts.

Fact is lots of QBs have changed routes and lots of smart QBs have willing be given that power because if they see something it can really help.
KRK  
#31 Posted : Thursday, December 6, 2018 12:18:19 PM(UTC)
beast said
Fact is lots of QBs have changed routes and lots of smart QBs have willing be given that power because if they see something it can really help.

This is absolutely correct and 100% spot on. Packages get sent in all the time that get changed at the last second. Many of these changes were discussed during the week.

Also, when sending in plays, The mechanism to send in the place is discontinued at the 15 second mark of the play clock. Therefore one can’t assume the entire play and all the nuances are sent in.

Most quarterbacks are given liberty to adjust plays, especially when they have the level of experience 12 has. Heck, 40 years ago in high school we were given liberty to change play sent in a from the bench.

nerdmann  
#32 Posted : Thursday, December 6, 2018 4:26:52 PM(UTC)
beast said: Go to Quoted Post
Your angle assume this is 100% Rodgers doing... which you have NO PROOF of... and they fact they're not letting Rodgers help in the search for a new coach probably shows that Rodgers has no control and ruins this whole conspiracy theory.


Remember when I keep saying it's Mike's fault for letting it go this far?

And yeah, as always, this franchise is publicly saying the right things.
beast  
#33 Posted : Thursday, December 6, 2018 8:49:19 PM(UTC)
nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
Remember when I keep saying it's Mike's fault for letting it go this far?

And yeah, as always, this franchise is publicly saying the right things.


So you have a second conspiracy to cover up the fact you have absolutely nothing of proof about the your originally conspiracy, which you have been complaining about for years (not even circumstantial evidence)... except your own opinion.

Yeah they're secretly trying to keep it quiet, when you just pointed out that players talked to media all the time, and the Packers have two former long term WRs that are working with National Media in James Jones and Greg Jennings, and Jennings has been more than open and willing to say negative things about Rodgers and MM.

Yet not one pieces of small proof of this conspiracy theory that ANYONE has gotten upset with Rodgers for what you're saying is Rodgers playing outside the system or "free landing"... not once.

And as for your new conspiracy theory... we found out that mega star Charles Woodson freelanced from time to time... and he was with the team a lot shorter time. Yet we can't find proof of Rodgers?


Aaron Rodgers freelanced from the nerdman system... which may NOT be the Green Bay Packers system that was run under MM
nerdmann  
#34 Posted : Thursday, December 6, 2018 8:58:27 PM(UTC)
beast said: Go to Quoted Post
So you have a second conspiracy to cover up the fact you have absolutely nothing of proof about the your originally conspiracy, which you have been complaining about for years (not even circumstantial evidence)... except your own opinion.

Yeah they're secretly trying to keep it quiet, when you just pointed out that players talked to media all the time, and the Packers have two former long term WRs that are working with National Media in James Jones and Greg Jennings, and Jennings has been more than open and willing to say negative things about Rodgers and MM.

Yet not one pieces of small proof of this conspiracy theory that ANYONE has gotten upset with Rodgers for what you're saying is Rodgers playing outside the system or "free landing"... not once.

And as for your new conspiracy theory... we found out that mega star Charles Woodson freelanced from time to time... and he was with the team a lot shorter time. Yet we can't find proof of Rodgers?


Aaron Rodgers freelanced from the nerdman system... which may NOT be the Green Bay Packers system that was run under MM


No idea what you're talking about now. Not particulary interested.

My position is that Aaron thinks he knows better than Mike how to offensively succeed. Secondarily, that he in fact probably does NOT know better than Mike how to offensively succeed. I believe that if Aaron gains greater control over the offense, that the offense will perform less optimally.

Therefore, my concern is that this move is going to result in Aaron having more power over the offense.

I could be wrong, but I don't think I am.
nerdmann  
#35 Posted : Thursday, December 6, 2018 9:01:32 PM(UTC)
beast said: Go to Quoted Post
So you have a second conspiracy to cover up the fact you have absolutely nothing of proof about the your originally conspiracy, which you have been complaining about for years (not even circumstantial evidence)... except your own opinion.

Yeah they're secretly trying to keep it quiet, when you just pointed out that players talked to media all the time, and the Packers have two former long term WRs that are working with National Media in James Jones and Greg Jennings, and Jennings has been more than open and willing to say negative things about Rodgers and MM.

Yet not one pieces of small proof of this conspiracy theory that ANYONE has gotten upset with Rodgers for what you're saying is Rodgers playing outside the system or "free landing"... not once.

And as for your new conspiracy theory... we found out that mega star Charles Woodson freelanced from time to time... and he was with the team a lot shorter time. Yet we can't find proof of Rodgers?


Aaron Rodgers freelanced from the nerdman system... which may NOT be the Green Bay Packers system that was run under MM


As I've stated, numerous players recount being in the huddle with Aaron, wherein Aaron calls a play, rolls his eyes, tells one or two players to deviate from the play. Aaron takes 12 step drop backs, holds the ball for 8 seconds. Do you need me to post the audio of the postgame show, clips of Gary Ellerson, Bill Micheals, etc? Look at the clip Zero just posted with Jay Glazer. According to Glazer, Jeff Saturday reports Aaron rolling his eyes in the huddle at plays being called. Is he lying?

Not sure what you're getting at. Nerd is not going around telling players to lie about Aaron.
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