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Zero2Cool  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, January 9, 2019 11:29:05 AM(UTC)
I can't recall what I was watching, but they recounted Nick Foles 27 TD and 2 INT season as MVP-like. That got me thinking because it wasn't the first time I heard that while watching an Eagles game. My thought was, didn't Rodgers put up similar numbers and we're saying he's had a poor year.

These seem quite similar.

2013 Foles
  • games 13 (started 10)
  • att 317
  • comp 203
  • comp% 64.0
  • yards 2,891
  • td 27
  • int 2



2018 Rodgers
  • games 16
  • att 597
  • comp 372
  • comp% 62.3
  • yards 4,442 (2nd highest in his career)
  • td 25
  • int 2
Nonstopdrivel  
#2 Posted : Wednesday, January 9, 2019 11:58:44 AM(UTC)
2013 Foles:
  • Touchdown percentage: 8.5
  • Interception percentage: 0.6
  • Yards per attempt: 9.1
  • Yards per game: 222.4


2018 Rodgers:
  • Touchdown percentage: 4.2
  • Interception percentage: 0.3
  • Yards per attempt: 7.4
  • Yards per game: 277.6


As far as I'm concerned, Foles had the much better season. I'd cheerfully trade the extra 55.2 passing yards per game for double the touchdown percentage and the spectacular yards-per-attempt average. Yes, Foles had the higher interception percentage, but 0.6 percent is still pretty phenomenal. I think the historical league average is somewhere between 3 and 4 percent. At turnover ratios that low, you quickly run into diminishing returns in terms of winning games.

But I'm very big on efficiency statistics and not so much impressed by raw numbers.
gbguy20  
#3 Posted : Wednesday, January 9, 2019 1:31:36 PM(UTC)
QB touchdown rate is a stupid stat. Lets compare team touchdown per drive rate instead for a true comparison. I don't care if it takes 10 passes per drive to get a touchdown instead of 5 as long as we're still getting the touchdown. It's actually probably better to take 10 because it gives the D more time to rest. So we should probably look at time of possession as well.
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