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wpr  
#1 Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2019 10:44:21 AM(UTC)
Mike Florio said:
They staunchly denied it while Mike McCarthy served as head coach, but they're admitting it now. The Packers had grown satisfied, and it was time to rid the team of that feeling. During Wednesday's press conference introducing new coach Matt LaFleur, CEO Mark Murphy explained that he gathered information from nine players (one from each [more]

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Mike is certainly part of the issue but I think it began with Teddy. Many have been saying so for years. There is very little incentive to put a more competitive team on the field. Every game is sold out. They have the longest waiting list for any team. Merchandise sales are always among the top franchises. Just win the division every other year. Get bounced the first round playoff and the gold will roll in. No worries.
nerdmann  
#2 Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2019 1:37:54 PM(UTC)
wpr said: Go to Quoted Post
Mike is certainly part of the issue but I think it began with Teddy. Many have been saying so for years. There is very little incentive to put a more competitive team on the field. Every game is sold out. They have the longest waiting list for any team. Merchandise sales are always among the top franchises. Just win the division every other year. Get bounced the first round playoff and the gold will roll in. No worries.


I don't know how Ted fits into it, but there was that tweet comparing Matt to Mike " before he stopped grinding," and also Michael Rodney tweeted maybe Mike should get himself in shape, because his energy levels at practice have been low last couple of years.

Could be something to it.
Zero2Cool  
#3 Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2019 2:11:38 PM(UTC)
nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
I don't know how Ted fits into it, but there was that tweet comparing Matt to Mike " before he stopped grinding," and also Michael Rodney tweeted maybe Mike should get himself in shape, because his energy levels at practice have been low last couple of years.

Could be something to it.


You need to be told again? If Michael Rodney says it, you can discard it. You're welcome.
wpr  
#4 Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2019 3:06:54 PM(UTC)
nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
I don't know how Ted fits into it, but there was that tweet comparing Matt to Mike " before he stopped grinding," and also Michael Rodney tweeted maybe Mike should get himself in shape, because his energy levels at practice have been low last couple of years.

Could be something to it.


Gee I don't know nerd let's see- perhaps part of the duties for most GMs is to hold the coaching staff in general and the HC in particular accountable. Complacency typically will begin higher up and trickles down to the coaches and players.

Add to that my earlier comments. If the front office isn't supplying the talent needed to honestly be considered SB material, why will the players feel the need to do much more than punch the clock and get their check?
buckeyepackfan  
#5 Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2019 4:20:44 PM(UTC)
wpr said: Go to Quoted Post
Mike is certainly part of the issue but I think it began with Teddy. Many have been saying so for years. There is very little incentive to put a more competitive team on the field. Every game is sold out. They have the longest waiting list for any team. Merchandise sales are always among the top franchises. Just win the division every other year. Get bounced the first round playoff and the gold will roll in. No worries.


Just one more example of Murphy half assing it.
Now he throws Mike under the bus for good.

There was a time in Green Bay when coaches and players hashed things out behind closed doors.
Now a player can go on social media or just get complacent and decide to quit on his coach knowing in the end he will be the one staying.
Murphy did Mike a favor, only it was a year to late .
Can't believe what is being said.

Good luck to the new HC.

This shit wouldn't happen in New England!
nerdmann  
#6 Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2019 6:21:55 PM(UTC)
wpr said: Go to Quoted Post
Gee I don't know nerd let's see- perhaps part of the duties for most GMs is to hold the coaching staff in general and the HC in particular accountable. Complacency typically will begin higher up and trickles down to the coaches and players.

Add to that my earlier comments. If the front office isn't supplying the talent needed to honestly be considered SB material, why will the players feel the need to do much more than punch the clock and get their check?


The talent level is fine. I've said it before. If Special Teams is just average this year, we're 13-3.
KRK  
#7 Posted : Friday, January 11, 2019 2:36:11 AM(UTC)
Nerd, I disagree.
The talent level is not fine..we've got some very good players, and many below (and well below) average players. And our depth is well below average.
KRK  
#8 Posted : Wednesday, January 16, 2019 3:25:27 PM(UTC)
Shout comments merit discussing this topic up anew.

I think it is great to give Matt LaFleur an entire new staff team. They are HIS choices and HE is accountable.

Its just like when an owner of a company retires or sells, you should not allow the element of "we used to do it 'this way'." On the offensive side of the ball "This way" is done....and that's a good thing.

Pure conjecture, but a shiny new dime says that Pettine, after he saw what he saw, wanted to get rid of the old guys as well. Good, he can be accountable too.
Zero2Cool  
#9 Posted : Wednesday, January 16, 2019 3:30:11 PM(UTC)
KRK said: Go to Quoted Post
Pure conjecture, but a shiny new dime says that Pettine, after he saw what he saw, wanted to get rid of the old guys as well. Good, he can be accountable too.


Per Jason Wilde (I think it was him or maybe Rob D) Mike Pettine wasn't the one who wanted Joe Whitt Jr gone, that came from above him, and above Matt LaFleur. It sounds like it was Russ Ball and/or Mark Murphy who are directing the 'clean' sweep of McCarthy's long tenured staff members.
KRK  
#10 Posted : Wednesday, January 16, 2019 3:38:20 PM(UTC)
OK, I may owe you a shiny new dime...notwithstanding for the foregoing, I am skeptical that Russ Ball would have had much input....perhaps Murphy. I am fine with it regardless.
DoddPower  
#11 Posted : Wednesday, January 16, 2019 10:40:26 PM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
Per Jason Wilde (I think it was him or maybe Rob D) Mike Pettine wasn't the one who wanted Joe Whitt Jr gone, that came from above him, and above Matt LaFleur. It sounds like it was Russ Ball and/or Mark Murphy who are directing the 'clean' sweep of McCarthy's long tenured staff members.


Good. It's time to start over. Nothing wrong with a full reset. The reset isn't an issue, they just have to replace them with as good or better replacements. It will only potentially be a mistake if they fail to do so.
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