beast
5 years ago

I remember some people saying that about McCarthy too.

Originally Posted by: sschind 

Well McCarthy was allegedly offered two head coaching jobs (Cardinals and Brown's, Brown's being conditional he kept Kictchens as OC) and he turned both of them down.


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sschind
5 years ago

Well McCarthy was allegedly offered two head coaching jobs (Cardinals and Brown's, Brown's being conditional he kept Kictchens as OC) and he turned both of them down.

Originally Posted by: beast 




As far as I knew McCarthy only interviewed for one job and that was the Jets and they didn't offer him the job. He never interviewed with the Browns or Cardinals so I find it highly unlikely they would have offered him the HC job without an interview.

Interest does not equal offer.
Zero2Cool
5 years ago

As far as I knew McCarthy only interviewed for one job and that was the Jets and they didn't offer him the job. He never interviewed with the Browns or Cardinals so I find it highly unlikely they would have offered him the HC job without an interview.

Interest does not equal offer.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



McCarthy and Browns didn't work out because Browns wanted the HC to keep Kitchens as OC, McCarthy refused, thus, Browns removed their interest.

Cardinals wanted McCarthy to be HC and head of personnel. McCarthy has no interest in controlling personnel, thus, no interest.

McCarthy is very good family person and his family wants him around. He's getting paid regardless this year, so why not sit idle, regroup, take a year off and come back looking for work in 2020, right?
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beast
5 years ago

Interest does not equal offer.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



No kidding! ... but like I said, he "was allegedly offered two head coaching jobs" ... I sure as hell can't confirm or deny that... I have no idea if true.... but the hiring people for the Browns known Mike McCarthy fairly well (and sounds like they had some talks though not an interview), and the Cardinals reportedly had conversations with Mike McCarthy and the Cardinals might of be (my word) desperate...

As the Cardinals knew all things being equal they're not seen as the premium organization, and they're going on their 3rd head coach in 3 years, and they had the worst record in the NFL, it's a tough division right now, and on top of that, reports that some coaches REALLY don't like the franchise QB (Josh Rosen) they just drafted with the 10th overall selection.

And some people have been really shocked at the guy they ended up hiring... though from what I'm hearing he might be better in the NFL than in college, because he struggles with administrative and recruiting (and defense), which there might be less of that stuff in the pros (not talking about defense part).


Cardinals wanted McCarthy to be HC and head of personnel. McCarthy has no interest in controlling personnel, thus, no interest.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I could be completely wrong... but I'm thinking he didn't want the Cardinals job (at least not compared to the Browns/Jets)... because in theory he could of just hired a head of personnel guy, like Holmgren hired Ted Thompson with the Seahawks... heck he could of grabbed Scot McCloughan or Eliot Wolf or Reggie McKenzie (he probably knows more).

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buckeyepackfan
5 years ago
His family wanted him to take a year off also

I bet Mike is waiting to see what happens in Pittsburgh next year.

Wouldn't that be a perfect place for Mike to resurface.
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5 years ago
If I were him, I’d be waiting to see what happened in Jacksonville. The team is loaded with talent
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beast
5 years ago

If I were him, I’d be waiting to see what happened in Jacksonville. The team is loaded with talent

Originally Posted by: KRK 

Defensive talent... less so offensive, at least QB. Also it really seems like the current owner is setting up the foundation for a potential move to London... though that could be a decade or more away, and could potentially bust and not happen at all...



League sources said the Jets were very interested in [Mike McCarthy,] the former Lombardi Trophy winner but talks broke off over staffing issues.

McCarthy rebuffed strong overtures from the Cardinals before the end of the regular season, as reported, and he and the Browns were never going to be a match, something both sides knew throughout the process. There was little mutual interested and he never seriously spoke to Browns general manager John Dorsey – who he worked with in Green Bay – about the job, sources said. The Jets were his most serious pursuer, but even then it was always going to be a bit of a long shot.

McCarthy harbored some concerns about the structure and composition of the Jets front office, sources said, though he did have a productive interview with ownership and team officials. However, as the Jets began deeper conversations with their finalists for the job, it became clear he was not going to mesh with their direction. Specifically, sources said, the Jets asked to see a list of a potential coaching staff so that they could peruse and consider the options. McCarthy complied with the request but began to have reservations about the process at this point, sources said, and was unsure if this would in fact be a match.

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Sounds like Mike McCarthy wasn't interested in the Cardinals job... and according to La Canfora little mutual interest in the Browns...

Also I find it interesting, they say the Jets job broke off over staffing... without giving any more, when they later explain (a little bit) the differences between Baylor coach Matt Rhule and Adam Gase staffing but they completely avoided explaining in MM, despite Mike McCarthy being the main story line.
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Or maybe they had reservations about the staff McCarthy was proposing
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sschind
5 years ago

McCarthy and Browns didn't work out because Browns wanted the HC to keep Kitchens as OC, McCarthy refused, thus, Browns removed their interest.

Cardinals wanted McCarthy to be HC and head of personnel. McCarthy has no interest in controlling personnel, thus, no interest.

McCarthy is very good family person and his family wants him around. He's getting paid regardless this year, so why not sit idle, regroup, take a year off and come back looking for work in 2020, right?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



OK, so are you saying McCarthy was offered HC positions with the Browns and the Cardinals?

Zero2Cool
5 years ago

OK, so are you saying McCarthy was offered HC positions with the Browns and the Cardinals?

Originally Posted by: sschind 



No sir, but it was reported the Cardinals were offering that to McCarthy, and all signs pointed to Browns hiring him, until he balked at being forced to have his OC selected for him. Another thing game out just recently that the Jets and McCarthy broke down over staff issues too.

Honestly, I think McCarthy did the interviews more for a "lets see what is out there" and get some interview practice while taking the year off. I don't know that he ever really wanted to coach in 2019 to be honest. I have nothing to base this off of, just speculation on my part.
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