When should Packers draft QB successor?· Page 2

buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

5 years ago

With the possible exception of Jones or Lock, I'm not very impressed with this years QB Draft Class. I certainly would not spend a 1st round pick to take one this year. Kizer or a replacement will have to suffice for a few more seasons. If a Jones or Lock are available for the 2nd round pick, picking one of them up for a 3rd string training project could pay off, I would still keep a sharp lookout for a Rodgers replacement by the 2020/21 NFL Drafts.

My ideal QB would be 6'3" to 6'4" tall. Trim build with superior foot speed. A rifle arm and a quick smart mind would be a requirement as well. There is also an intangible that can't found on a statistics sheet, a competitive player that does not know how to quit or football toughness.

Originally Posted by: Smokey

Tim Boyle
Height: 6′ 4″
Weight: 234 lbs
That about right?
Packers are set for the next few years at QB.
Kizer and Boyle just have to keep improving.

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Porforis
Veteran Member

5 years ago

#12

I don't really pay attention to the drafts or college football so I have no idea what prospects are out there, but I'm not opposed to spending some later round picks this year. But come 2020 or 2021, definitely need to start spending some higher draft picks and I'd be okay with making a big trade for a high first round pick to nab a high end prospect. We're in a unique position where we can have someone sit behind a veteran for a few years without the pressure (barring injury) to come in and immediately perform.

KRK
Veteran Member

5 years ago

#13

Hypothetically, one could time the selection perfectly to the draft class, but then, we are drafting for need, which then we make poor choices.

Smokey stated

6'3" to 6'4" tall. Trim build with superior foot speed. A rifle arm and a quick smart mind would be a requirement as well. There is also an intangible that can't found on a statistics sheet, a competitive player that does not know how to quit or football toughness

I mostly agree, but
[list]

I want someone with a high ceiling, physically still maturing who has played well BEFORE being at his physical prime (think Kenny Clark)

I want someone at least 6'5" with a high arm release someone who can see and pass from the pocket

Someone who has won and or competed well despite his teams shortcomings

Someone with brains...ideally the smartest player on offense

Someone who can win without using his legs if necessary (think Brady or Luck)[/list]

Taking them now allows the staff to fix issues, like the issues which we hoped had been/will be fixed with Kizer.And by the way, Rodgers did NOT have a rifle arm coming out of college, that was developed.Accordingly, if Jones or Lock is there in the second round or if I can move down from 12 and pick up addition lower first round picks, I would take one of them.

In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

5 years ago

#14

Brett Favre. Aaron Rodgers. 6'2"

Enough said about height.

gbguy20
Veteran Member

5 years ago

#15

nope, kevin. 6'3" at minimum. mi-ni-mum.

KRK
Veteran Member

5 years ago

#16

Actually, its not enough about height.

12 is a freak. And I bet if you asked him, or Danica, 12 wouldn't mind another inch or two. 🙂

Luck and Brady are close to 6'5"

Athletes are getting bigger, esp Olinemen. I want who ever is next to have the best possible chance to see the field and get a clean release.

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Smokey
Veteran Member

5 years ago

#17

Size is indeed, IMO, an important factor in evaluating a QB.
Foot speed,yes.
Strong accurate passer,yes
Quick/smart mind,yes.
Good/great college film history,yes

Ryan Fitzpatrick :
Smart (Harvard U.)
Game skills,yes
Can lead a teams offense successfully,yes
A tough "football player", yes.
A franchise GB, no way. However most teams would be happy to hire him as their #2 QB.
Fitzpatrick has proved himself a capable journeyman "backup" QB, but he has always lacked that "it" intangible that can't be found through statistical analysis. Favre had "it", Payton Manning had "it", Brady and Rodgers have "it". "It" is what places them on a higher level above the others. Finding the"it" factor may be the most difficult part of the scouting process.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

5 years ago

#18

Originally Posted by: KRK

So, 2001 NFL draft you take Sage Rosenfels instead of Drew Brees because Sage meets your close to 6'5" height requirement? Sorry, that's not smart.

You're right, the game is changing and typically speaking, taller guys are less mobile and less fleet of foot. And in the game today, defensive linemen and pass rushers are coming at all sorts of different sizes and speeds. You need a QB who won't get teed off on. So, whether the QB is tallest in his class or not, you want a QB who can think quick and react. Look at Brett Favre later in his career. He wasn't a mobile guy to begin with, but he had incredible POCKET AWARENESS. That's what you want out of your QB more than some arbitrary selected height metric. You want a QB who will inspire and lead your team, who is going to get the other 10 guys on the same page, who is going to be calm under pressure, who is going to forget about that pick he threw but not make the same mistake next time.

There is so much more to being a QB than height. When I hear people talking about height and QB's, I instantly feel they do not grasp what it takes to be a QB because they are focusing on something that is a factor yes but hardly a major one.

KRK
Veteran Member

5 years ago

#19

Z2C said

When I hear people talking about height and QB's, I instantly feel they do not grasp what it takes to be a QB because they are focusing on something that is a factor yes but hardly a major one.

Well I guess Luck and Brady will never make it.

I want an athlete who happens to be taller, not a stiff.

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

5 years ago

#20

Well I guess Luck and Brady will never make it.

I want an athlete who happens to be taller, not a stiff.

Originally Posted by: KRK

Please, read what I said and you'll understand why this remark was off-base.

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