buckeyepackfan
4 years ago
What the hell. Going to post this now, see how it matches in September.

Receivers

01. Davante Adams
02. Geronimo Allison
03. Valdes-Scantling,
04. St. Brown
05. G. Moore
06. Jake Kumerow
..........................................6

07. Trevor Davis
                              08. Allen Lazard(PS)

Tight ends

01. Jimmy Graham
02. Marcedes Lewis
03. Jace Sternberger
04.  Robert Tonyan
...........................................4
05. Evan Baylis


Running backs

01. Aaron Jones
02. Jamaal Williams
03. Dexter Williams
...................... ..................3

................................04. Kapri Bibbs(PS)


Fullbacks

Danny Vitale
..........................................1


Quarterbacks

01. Aaron Rodgers
02. DeShone Kizer
03. Tim Boyle
.........................................3


Offensive line

01. David Bakhtiari (T)
02. Bryan Bulaga (T),
03. Corey Linsley (C),
04. Billy Turner (G/T),
05. Lane Taylor (G)
06. Elgton Jenkins(C/G/T)
07. Justin McCray(G)
08. Jason Spriggs (T)
09.Cole Madison(G)
10. Lucas Patrick (G)
.................................................10



11. Alex Light (G/T)
12. Adam Pankey (G/T)
...................13. Gerhard de Beer (T)(PS)
...................14.  Yosh Nijman* (T)   (PS)


Defensive line

01. Kenny Clark
02. Mike Daniels
03. Dean Lowry
04. Kingsley Keke
05. Tyler Lancaster
06. Montravius Adams
..............................................6



...........................07. Fadol Brown.   (PS)
...........................08. James Looney(PS)

Edge

01. Preston Smith
02. Za'Darius Smith
03. Rashan Gary
04. Kyler Fackrell
05. Reggie Gilbert
06. Kendall Donnerson
............................................... 6

Inside linebackers

01. Blake Martinez
02. Oren Burks
.............................................2


............................03. Ty Summers(PS)
04. James Crawford
............................05. Curtis Bolton(PS)



Cornerbacks

01. Jaire Alexander
02. Kevin King
03. Tramon Williams
04. Josh Jackson
05. Tony Brown
..............................................5

...........................06. Ka'dar Holliman(PS)
07.  Will Redmond
.........................08. Natrell Jamerson(PS)


Safeties

01. Adrian Amos
02. Darnell Savage Jr.
03. Josh Jones
04. Raven Greene
..............................................4

05. Tray Matthews


Specialists

01. Mason Crosby (K)
02  JK Scott (P)
03. Hunter Bradley (LS)
................................................3
Offense..... ...........................27
Defense... ............................23

Total.....................................53
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nerdmann
4 years ago
Kendall Donnerson! 👍
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4 years ago
Buck you did a good job on your selections. That said I doubt they keep 27 offense and 23 on defense. It's going to be more balanced.

They probably will cut 2 more. The options are: 10 OL might be 8. No fullback or only 3 TE.

You have 9 DB. In a passing league they may want to have 10.

Someone you have on the PS will be picked up by another team but we have no idea who.
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buckeyepackfan
4 years ago

Buck you did a good job on your selections. That said I doubt they keep 27 offense and 23 on defense. It's going to be more balanced.

They probably will cut 2 more. The options are: 10 OL might be 8. No fullback or only 3 TE.

You have 9 DB. In a passing league they may want to have 10.

Someone you have on the PS will be picked up by another team but we have no idea who.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



I know what you are saying.
I don't think there is much use for a FB in the new offense, but Vitale was one of a few bright spots on ST's last year.

I wanted to change 1 I would replace Vitale with the udfa ILB Ty Summers.
Summers is a converted QB, who can play that lb/s position.



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beast
4 years ago
Very good job!

My biggest questions or thought changes are

I'm still wondering if Lazard will be staying at WR or being moving to TE, his combine/proday size and athletic numbers are exactly like Robert Tonyan (who was also a college WR).

Also IF (and this is a big question mark IF), if LaFleur is planning on running more 2 TE systems list some are projecting, will there be less WRs and more TEs than expected?

10 OL seems like a lot, which the Packers have done, but only when they've drafted two rookies and kept them both. And 10 OL especially seems high when you consider only 3 of them are primary OTs... so that's 7 primary interior OL... IMO that's just too many interior OL when they normally have had 5. So I'd go with 9 OL... if McCray, Patrick or Madison are that 10th guy, they very well could be released.


On defense the old debates between 3-4 vs 4-3 are mostly dead as basically all 32 teams are running 4-2 nickel defenses 70% of the time, and so the Packers defensive roster numbers looked more like 4-3 roster numbers than 3-4 roster numbers with DL at one point dropping to 4 guys (normally was 5 thought), only 4 edge rushers numbers and a surprisingly high 5 off the ball LBers despite basically only using 1 outside of STs and running situations..

The Packers only went with a max of 5 DL all of last season under Pettine and shocked me when they seemed to be okay with only with only 4 a little while after Wilkerson injury until more injury happen... I think number wise, they would like to keep it at 5 .... but if they consider Daniels/Lowry are in contract years and needing to developing guys and having some good prospects to develop it could potentially be 6 for development/contract this year. And that's a tough final cut in Lancaster, Adams and Keke... of course that's assuming Adams and Keke show up like they potentially could, otherwise they could be released.

Packers when with a max of 4 OLBers last year (just like 4-3 front teams) and so I don't think they're gonna get up to 6, maybe 5 though. Packers had 4 or 5 ILBers last year (though mostly played on STs only), so I can't seeing them go all the way to 2 this year (and if they did, then a SS is going to be helping them out and there is gonna be extra Safeties).


Almost all teams keep 6 CBs on the roster for CB depth and STs. And it wouldn't surprise me to seem the keep 5 Safeties again.
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beast
4 years ago
I don't have a PS ready, but he's my general roster wild crazy guess right about now...

I really wanted to keep another OT (I'm thinking Light, cus they kept him around last year to develop) but I just didn't want to cut Tonyan, Vitale or one of the WRs... but one of them very well could be released instead of the 9th OL. Also I really liked Kizer as a rookie (other than putting all the pressure on himself, to the point he folded, but talent wise he was good.... Mike McCarthy tried to completely change his footwork and he took a big step back... if he's footwork looks as poor as last year, he could be potentially be gone if Boyle also steps up. But that's a lot of ifs there...

QB (3) Rodgers, Kizer, Boyle

RB (3) Jones, J. Williams, D. Williams
FB (1) Vitale

WR (6) Adams, Allison, Valdes-Scantling, St. Brown, Moore, Kumerow
TE (3) Graham, Lewis, Tonyan, Sternberger

OT (3) Bakhtiari, Bulaga, Spriggs
OG (4) Taylor, Turner, Jenkins, McCray
C (1) Linsley (both Jenkins and McCray can play Center)


Generally I'm thinking one less DL and one more LB, but the ILB depth seem lacking (wouldn't be surprised to see them claim someone from another team there), or Gilbert instead or maybe Donnerson for ST value.

(Really wide open to who the 4th ILB will be, just went with Summers for speed/STs, but that's what Crawford is great at, so they might only keep one and find someone better at ILB... though I've been projecting S Josh Jones to help there for years as the dime coverage ILB)

(really wide open to who the 6th CB is, just when with Jamerson for speed/STs)

(Williams knows the system better than the new comers and Savage has to adjust to the pros first, though he'll be worked in more as the season goes along and Williams might play both S and CB liked he hinted at last year he wanted to do).

NT (2) Clark, Lancaster
DE (4) Daniels, Lowery, Adams, Keke

OLB (4) Z. Smith, P. Smith, Gary, Fackrell
ILB (4) Martinez, Burks, Crawford, Summers


CB (6) King, Alexander, Jackson, Brown, Hollman, Jamerson
S (5) Williams, Amos, Savage, Jones, Greene

ST (3) Crosby, Bradley, Scott

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4 years ago
Excellent Posts

I am taking Beast predictions, and modifying them as follows:
[list][*]OLine - neither Taylor or McCray make the squad replaced by Yosh Nijman and Cole Madison[*]Vitale will not make it - replaced with a veteran pickup off waivers[/list]
In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK
gbguy20
4 years ago
Beast, your TE position says it has 3, but you listed 4 names. I didn't count everything, but I'm assuming that makes your total 54.
Cheesey
4 years ago
I don’t see Trevor Davis making the team. Yes, at one time he was great on returns, but what has he done in the last several seasons? Nothing, really.
Kumerow has a much better up side as a WR and in my opinion deserves a roster spot.
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beast
4 years ago

Beast, your TE position says it has 3, but you listed 4 names. I didn't count everything, but I'm assuming that makes your total 54.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 


Thanks for pointing out the error, but nope still only 53 (numbers add up to 52).

Speaking of numbers, I'd just like to point out that Gute has seemed to be more flexible with the numbers than Thompson but there still seemed to be a general base that Gute kept the numbers within.

I don’t see Trevor Davis making the team. Yes, at one time he was great on returns, but what has he done in the last several seasons? Nothing, really.
Kumerow has a much better up side as a WR and in my opinion deserves a roster spot.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 

Gute clearly values STs to some degree basically keeping guys like Davis, Crawford and the high depth at ILB almost solely for ST value, so I wouldn't be surprised to see Gute surprise again with some moves for STs.

But it surprised me that they basically twice selected Davis over Kumerow, at least if the rumors we're true that he'd be healthy by the start if the season.

Then again they needed a returner and they were hoping that Cobb and Allison would get healthy for the longest time... and Gute seemed to be a strong believer in getting the draft picks with talent on the field to develop over the season after it started not looking so good, so they could have slowed the rush to get Kumerow back as soon as possible.


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