No worries, mate. You can read the same post an unlimited amount of times until you get the point. I'll wait.
What is Mason Crosby not doing well at in regards to kicking? Kickoffs or Field Goals? Everything?
34 of 36 extra points. 94.4% (whopping 17th!) in 2018
Only two kickers made more 50+ FG's than he did in 2018
3rd in attempted FG's in 2018 (the two who kicked more than him were in the high 80's for FG made % and 4th in FG's attempted was a full 10% higher in percentage and he kicks for the Jets!)
6th in made FG's in 2018
23rd in FG Made % ... TWENTY THIRD! in 2018
In 2017 he kicked almost half as many FG's and actually had a lower FG Made %
This link shows Mason Crosby is the highest cap hit for the Kicking position. https://www.spotrac.com/...rankings/cap-hit/kicker/
Looks like we'd have a 2019 Cap Savings: $3,600,000 if we Cut or Traded Mason Crosby.
The only thing that makes me nervous about that is the issues I see other teams having trying to find a guy who can kick the ball between the uprights. I'd rather keep Crosby under a different deal. I just don't know that is a possible thing to do.
So are you in the keep him or cut him camp. I still can't tell from your "explanation" Your stats are all over the map. You post one stat that has his 23rd and another that has him 6th. It sounds like you think we should cut him (assuming the current contract) but again your pointing out the 50+ yarders, 3rd in attempts, 6th in made FGs sounds like you are defending him.
n your first post, the one where I didn't understand your point (and I still don't) you said we are getting what we are paying for. I disagree. Crosby is being paid like a top 10 kicker and for the past 2 years he has performed like a bottom 10 kicker.
I don't care if he makes all his kicks over 50 yards if he misses a bunch from 40.
I don't care if he is 1st in attempts or last. That is more a factor of the offense than the kicker. If they move the ball well the kicker has more attempts. Percentage is what matters most to me but when we are talking about such low numbers 1 extra miss or two or 1 extra made kick or two can make a big swing in percentage.
Extra points are not a huge factor to me. Crosby was 17th. He missed 2. If he would have missed 1 more he would have dropped to 25th. If he would have made 1 more he would have risen to 7th. Even more than FG attempts extra point attempts are not a kicking stat they are an offensive stat tied directly to TDs scored..
I am not in favor of cutting him just to save money. Even though his percentage is not on par with his cap hit I do realize that he does have some intangibles that make him desirable and several have brought up good points. It is hard to kick in Lambeau but if I am not mistaken opposing kickers actually have a better percentage kicking there than Crosby does.
Like yooper said I would only be in favor of cutting him if the other guy outperforms him by a wide margin but I am in favor of looking very seriously at finding someone else. I don't think this guy we have is teh one to do it though.
I share your nervousness about struggling with kicker after kicker if we decide to move on and aside from the Detroit fiasco last year, which I think was just a really really bad game, Crosby wasn't that bad. If he goes 2/4 in that game his percentage rises to 86.5 which puts him at 17. Not great but not terrible.
If we cut him he won't be out of a job long as he is better than many kickers out there but I do think it would be possible to find a better one. The problem, like you alluded to, is how many worse ones would we have to go through before we find the better one.
I believe we pretty much agree on this after reading this comment from you If we NEED the money, I can understand cutting him if we have someone we feel is going to be as good, if not better. If we don't NEED the money, I say keep him.
the only difference is I think even if we don't NEED the money we should cut him if we think we have someone as good or better.