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KRK  
#441 Posted : Monday, November 4, 2019 1:36:18 PM(UTC)
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Watching that game three times is a terrible misuse of time. People tune that out after a period of time
Bull. IT IS A GREAT USE OF TIME. Perhaps you have never been in a team film room. Many times plays are run over 5-6 times. I know of an instance on a blown assignment that was run back 17 times.

People don't tune out, they learn.

On of the biggest problems in the Thompson McCarthy era was a lack of accountability, which means taking people to task for missed assignments and piss-poor execution.
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Patriots have already moved on to their next opponent, it is what they do and are famous for doing win or lose.
Belichick's position coaches will go through every single play with the players, especially the major screw-ups
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Something. You take them off the field because ultimately that hurts them more than anything else and by hurts them I mean gets their attention.
The best time to get their attention and effectuate change is immediately after a screw up.
Zero2Cool  
#442 Posted : Monday, November 4, 2019 2:04:21 PM(UTC)
KRK said: Go to Quoted Post
ZTC said:Bull. IT IS A GREAT USE OF TIME. Perhaps you have never been in a team film room. Many times plays are run over 5-6 times. I know of an instance on a blown assignment that was run back 17 times.

People don't tune out, they learn.


One of the things players have commended this coaching staff on was when players asked the coach to break up the meetings a little bit because players were drifting off and the value was diminishing, the staff did just that. They even installed a basketball hoop in one of the meeting rooms.

If you even for a second think players don't tune it out, you have no business talking on the subject at all until you do any research on the matter. If you don't follow the Packers or NFL close enough to have read the quotes, just look up Lance Briggs. You think he's the only one? He's not. What about James Harrison who said “Who hasn’t fell asleep in a meeting?”. Wait, let me guess, he was so tuned in he was DREAMING of the corrections? What about John Roper who Jimmy Johnson from the team for sleeping through a special teams film session?

Yeah, players don't tune them out, they learn.

KRK  
#443 Posted : Monday, November 4, 2019 2:19:07 PM(UTC)
Players tune out when they don’t know the reasons that film work is being done. They tune out when they’re not being taught.

They screw up when either they don’t know their assignments, don’t know what they should’ve done in that particular situation, nor understand why they need to do what they’re supposed to do. I’m not talking about reviewing guys getting their asses kicked physical. Reviewing blown assignments, bad angles, and piss poor effort is necessary, worthwhile, and will yield results.

Knowing how their screwup affects other aspects of the team and the game plan is essential to correcting performance. It further enables guys to fill-in at other positions, which they can’t do if they haven’t done adequate film work.

Lance Briggs and James Harrison had simple freaking jobs, containing the run and rush the passer. They were really involved and complex coverages so I can see why these guys got bored. When you have a relatively young defense and complex games, film work as essential as tedious as it may be. As part of the discipline that separates good teams from grade teams.

And I don’t have to do any research on the subject. I played and I coached. Good coaches know how to hold players accountable. Bad ones don’t.
KRK  
#444 Posted : Monday, November 4, 2019 2:22:23 PM(UTC)
Additional thought. The only positive I saw from the game was Tony Brown and some of the db's getting into a shoving and shouting match on the sideline. At least someone gave a damn.
Cheesey  
#445 Posted : Monday, November 4, 2019 5:40:06 PM(UTC)
KRK said: Go to Quoted Post
Additional thought. The only positive I saw from the game was Tony Brown and some of the db's getting into a shoving and shouting match on the sideline. At least someone gave a damn.


Too bad they couldn’t be that tough ON the field.
Zero2Cool  
#446 Posted : Tuesday, November 5, 2019 5:34:22 AM(UTC)
KRK said: Go to Quoted Post
Players tune out when they don’t know the reasons that film work is being done. They tune out when they’re not being taught.


Exactly. Watching the game does nothing, shit, if it did I would be a freaking General Manager by now as would others!! Ha. Reviewing the film cut up by the coaching staff (or at the direction of the coaching staff) with corrections and how to implement said corrections is vastly different than watching the game X times.
Zero2Cool  
#447 Posted : Tuesday, November 5, 2019 5:35:35 AM(UTC)
KRK said: Go to Quoted Post
Additional thought. The only positive I saw from the game was Tony Brown and some of the db's getting into a shoving and shouting match on the sideline. At least someone gave a damn.


This I did not see. Conflict can be a good thing. As I've beat this drum a few times already, I will strum it once more. I'm more curious in how this team responds than watching that game again. I think the Packers are more like how they performed vs Cowboys and Raiders than they did Chargers. I could be wrong. We will find out.

I'm thinking you were referring to this.

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