dyeah_gb
4 years ago
If the Dolphins draft a QB, there may be an opportunity for the Pack to trade for Rosen without giving away too much. It is time for the team to start grooming the next starter and warm the bench for Rodgers. Making a move for Rosen would eliminate the need to look for a QB in the draft. Pack have more pressing needs in the short term but they also need a strategy for the long term. Is this crazy talk?
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Nonstopdrivel
4 years ago
Miami acquired Rosen for a second-round pick in 2019 and a fifth-round pick in 2020. What would you propose Green Bay offer in their bid to pry him away from the Dolphins after a season in which he went 58/109 (53.2%) for 567 yards (5.2 ypa), 1 touchdown and 5 interceptions? His interception percentage stood at an eye-watering 4.6%. More importantly, if Gutekunst did made this move, do you think LaFleur's coaching staff would be able to whip him into the kind of shape required for him to represent a credible backup? To say he's raw would be a gross understatement. At this point I think I'd trust Boyle over Rosen.
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beast
4 years ago
Yes Rosen is crazy talk, if two teams give up on him in two years, and don't forget the scouting reports all say he's never been the most likable person to get along with (and yet we're people are complaining about Rodgers who doesn't even have a quarter of the negative personality reporting as Rosen)... unless maybe he's a steal of something.

I'd be much more interested in Andy Dalton, if something like this were to happen, price tag would be higher, but the kid can play when he actually has some talent around him.... they lost their elite OL guys and WRs depth. Not saying Dalton is an all star, but he can be a starter for sure.

Not to mention FA that you wouldn't have to trade for...

Ryan Tannehill (especially if they get Brady)
Teddy Bridgewater (tell me you don't want to beat the Vikings with a Vikings, lol, probably wants to stay in NO or start though)
Jameis Winston (okay, maybe stay away from unless he's cheap, great physical talent, but bone head )
Marcus Mariota played under LaFleur, and he's good when healthy... backups usually stay healthier
Case Keenum, wtwo of his last three years he's has 90+ QB rating, plays smart, took the Vikings to the playoffs.
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Zero2Cool
4 years ago

Yes Rosen is crazy talk, if two teams give up on him in two years, and don't forget the scouting reports all say he's never been the most likable person to get along with (and yet we're people are complaining about Rodgers who doesn't even have a quarter of the negative personality reporting as Rosen)... unless maybe he's a steal of something.

I'd be much more interested in Andy Dalton, if something like this were to happen, price tag would be higher, but the kid can play when he actually has some talent around him.... they lost their elite OL guys and WRs depth. Not saying Dalton is an all star, but he can be a starter for sure.

Not to mention FA that you wouldn't have to trade for...

Ryan Tannehill (especially if they get Brady)
Teddy Bridgewater (tell me you don't want to beat the Vikings with a Vikings, lol, probably wants to stay in NO or start though)
Jameis Winston (okay, maybe stay away from unless he's cheap, great physical talent, but bone head )
Marcus Mariota played under LaFleur, and he's good when healthy... backups usually stay healthier
Case Keenum, wtwo of his last three years he's has 90+ QB rating, plays smart, took the Vikings to the playoffs.

Originally Posted by: beast 



This is actually the first I've heard Josh Rosen is hard to get along with. Everything I've read and heard about him was that he was a likeable dude. I believe Aaron Rodgers spent time with him prior to Rosen being drafted.

I wouldn't give up anything more than a 4th round compensatory pick for him.

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beast
4 years ago

This is actually the first I've heard Josh Rosen is hard to get along with. Everything I've read and heard about him was that he was a likeable dude. I believe Aaron Rodgers spent time with him prior to Rosen being drafted.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Almost everything pre-draft made it sound like he's rubbed a TON of people the wrong way....

I honest didn't hear anything too horrible in the terms of one event, but it sounded like the problem was he was extremely over the top cockyy af! Puts himself on a pedestal and others are below him. And just rubbed a lot larger (or at least more vocal) number of people the wrong way.

Scouts question his passion for football and whether he will be a willing student

Sources Tell Us

"He wasn't the guy everyone rallied around in college and you don't have to dig around for too long to find people who said he was hard to coach.

nfl.com/prospects/josh-rosen  wrote:



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PackerTraxx
4 years ago
I would be hesitant to give a 7th 🙂
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gbguy20
4 years ago
We tried this already with kizer. Did not work.
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4 years ago

Teddy Bridgewater (tell me you don't want to beat the Vikings with a Vikings, lol, probably wants to stay in NO or start though)

Originally Posted by: beast 

I think this is an excellent idea....supposedly a good guy....went 5-0 with New Orleans when Brees was hurt.


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dyeah_gb
4 years ago
Straight up trade for someone like Allison/MVS/ESB + mid to late pick would be interesting. Rosen is an opportunity because he may be a talented QB that has played for teams that expected results in year 1 and did not give him the support to make that a reality. This gives the Packers some leverage to get him on the cheap for a Dolphins team that picks up a QB in the first round. Kizer was in a similar situation with the Browns but he was never a guy who had the skills that fit well in the Packers offense imo.

Alternatively, it would be reassuring to hear the team say that Boyle is being groomed to be Rodger replacement. I like what I have seen from him and it would be great to see him get meaningful reps during the season if the opportunity presents itself.




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porky88
4 years ago
I do think GB needs to consider looking for a QB of the future. Rodgers will be 37. It's likely he'll retire in the next 3 years.

I did like Josh Rosen at UCLA and I think he's gotten a raw deal in Arizona and Miami. Basically, he's had two rookie seasons due to the staffing and schematic changes. He needs structure and to remain in one spot for a couple of years.
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