The Packers had their chance to show they could handle a top defense. Instead they proved once again that a fast, aggressive defense is their stopper.

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Not a good question.

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Not a good question.

And lots of people rightly calling it out on Twitter atm

Edit: Not the same as MLF telling him to shut up but its something

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How many turnovers today? 7? 5? And we still took this team to OT at their house.

Absolutely this is a good team. They just need to pull their heads out of their asses.

Maybe make adjustments at halftime.

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Their were enough screw ups to go around.
Multiple fumbles killed any chance of getting a win.
The one by MVS stands out more because of when it happened.
Without the plays he DID make, we never would have got to over time.

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Their were enough screw ups to go around.
Multiple fumbles killed any chance of getting a win.
The one by MVS stands out more because of when it happened.
Without the plays he DID make, we never would have got to over time.

Yep, and had Rodgers lead him on that throw, MVS probably scores the game-winning TD. It was a little underthrown and he did a good job coming back and finding it in triple coverage. That's a difficult throw out of the end zone though. Without that play, it's much less likely it goes to OT. I feel some would be happier with MVS if he drops that pass and the game ends at 31-28.

Terrible timing on the fumble of course, but with 257 yards and 3TDs over the last three weeks, it's hard to say MVS is a major problem for the team. An inconsistent player, for sure. But that's as far as I would go. MVS had a really good play, followed by a really bad play. It happens.

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In my opinion, GB needs to get better with:

(1) Ball Security
(2) Wrap Up Tackling
(3) Better QB/Receiver coordination on timing pass plays.

Additionally, I'm still not satisficed with the D-Line/ILB run stopping. It may be too late this season to make changes at those positions, but were I GB's GM I'd be scouting College defensive linemen and inside linebackers.

MVS must feel bad over his fumble and the result of the loss to the Colts, but these things happen and full blame for the loss should not fall upon him alone. The entire GB defense allowed the Colts to score too many points.

The Packers will be division champions, but IMO they are not SB contenders this season. This puzzle is still missing a few pieces yet.

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Let’s remember, just a week earlier, Adams had a fumble too.
Like has been stated before, had we not had MVS on the field, we never would have gone to overtime.

Was I mad he fumbled? Heck yes.
But all the plays he has made for us, I’m sure he feels awful about costing the team a chance at a win.

Remember how many times Brett Favre threw INTs? Yet he also threw exciting TDS.
I guess you have to take the good with the bad.

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If you look back in the archives you will see many of us criticize Adam's, Jones and other wide receivers for mistakes in their early years. Maybe we will get lucky and look back at this game in the same way. I like the leadership from MLF and 12 in standing up for him.

Still, it was not fun to see the game pissed away. For some reason it brings back memories of a game against the Giants when Ahman Green fumbled.

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The whole third quarter and almost all of the forth quarter is what cost us the game,
The offense inability to gain even a first down during that whole time is what cost us the game. Not the MVS fumble.
It never should’ve come to that point.
They played so good in the first half, only to disappear in the whole second half of the game.
Almost at the end of regulation, they wasted a down spiking the ball, when they could have taken a shot at the end zone.

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Yep, and had Rodgers lead him on that throw, MVS probably scores the game-winning TD. It was a little underthrown and he did a good job coming back and finding it in triple coverage. That's a difficult throw out of the end zone though. Without that play, it's much less likely it goes to OT. I feel some would be happier with MVS if he drops that pass and the game ends at 31-28.

Terrible timing on the fumble of course, but with 257 yards and 3TDs over the last three weeks, it's hard to say MVS is a major problem for the team. An inconsistent player, for sure. But that's as far as I would go. MVS had a really good play, followed by a really bad play. It happens.

I know Rodgers is one of the best to every play the game... but he rarely if ever hits MVS in stride down the field.

I really feel like he's not used to it, or he's okay with settling for just a good deep throw, instead of a great deep throw (which is good for most QBs, but he has greatness in him). There have been a good number of throws, where if Rodgers his MVS in stride (assuming MVS catches it), it's a foot race to the end zone. But he's had to wait on a heck of a lot of passes. Where Rodgers pridefully nailed Adams and Lazard.

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It is very easy place blame on a player or a coach, but we all know they are not the entire story by far. Defensive players can play their guts out for a win, but can still loose to better opposing players.

If one takes the time to look, the All-Time best NFL Defenses had great personnel. The "Steel Curtin" of the Steelers, Dallas's "Doomsday" Defense, the "85" Bears, the Rams "Fearsome Foursome", and others were filled with players that found their way to Canton, Ohio. GB needs to get better defensive players if they are to be true SB contenders. It is and always will be true that:

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The offense inability to gain even a first down during that whole time is what cost us the game. Not the MVS fumble.

I just want to make sure I got this straight....despite the turnovers, and the fact that the offense scored 35 points against the top rated defense....ts our offense's fault?!?!?!?

It is within the rules and some teams find it to be a great strategy, that the defense plays aggressively and actually forces "3 and outs", as our defense did in the first half...(sarcasm font)

If you want to get off the field... STOP THEM!!!

What Frank Reich and the Colts, and likely the rest of the league, woke up to is that we can't stop the run. In the 3rd quarter, they ran the ball on 9 consecutive plays!!! To illustrate, the play selection
- RUN
-RUN
-RUN
-RUN
-RUN
-RUN
-RUN
-RUN
-RUN

To add further injury to insult...literally, IIRC a couple of their O line got dinged up and they were playing with back-ups.

The offense can't do a helluvalot about 10 play and 12 play drives

Let's take a step back, have a little more perspective, and recognize the biggest problem.

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How many turnovers today? 7? 5? And we still took this team to OT at their house.

Absolutely this is a good team. They just need to pull their heads out of their asses.

Maybe make adjustments at halftime.

Gone for a year and the first post I see from Nerd is telling them to pull their heads out of their asses.

Its like I never left. 😁

I just want to make sure I got this straight....despite the turnovers, and the fact that the offense scored 35 points against the top rated defense....ts our offense's fault?!?!?!?

It is within the rules and some teams find it to be a great strategy, that the defense plays aggressively and actually forces "3 and outs", as our defense did in the first half...(sarcasm font)

If you want to get off the field... STOP THEM!!!

What Frank Reich and the Colts, and likely the rest of the league, woke up to is that we can't stop the run. In the 3rd quarter, they ran the ball on 9 consecutive plays!!! To illustrate, the play selection
- RUN
-RUN
-RUN
-RUN
-RUN
-RUN
-RUN
-RUN
-RUN

To add further injury to insult...literally, IIRC a couple of their O line got dinged up and they were playing with back-ups.

The offense can't do a helluvalot about 10 play and 12 play drives

Let's take a step back, have a little more perspective, and recognize the biggest problem.

Uh.....our offense didn’t score 35 points. 31
And only 3 of those points were in the second half.
I’m not blaming the loss on the offense, just stating the fact that they did nothing in the second half to help our lousy defense.
They KNOW our D sucks, and we’re on the field almost the entire second half.
We all know it’s up to our offense to win games. If they have to depend on our defense, most likely it will end up as a loss. (Unless they are playing against a real lousy team).
Yes, the offense isn’t at fault for the D allowing long drives. But when they DO get the ball, 3 and outs will be a disaster for this team.
They had chances to do something, and did nothing till the last drive of regulation.
They have to carry the load.....unfortunately.

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They KNOW our D sucks, and we’re on the field almost the entire second half.
We all know it’s up to our offense to win games. If they have to depend on our defense, most likely it will end up as a loss.

This is precisely the point. The defense sucks.

it is not a reasonable expectation for the offense to score every time, or almost every time they have the ball.

If the defense wants to get off the field, they can stop them just like the other team stops us.

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This is precisely the point. The defense sucks.

it is not a reasonable expectation for the offense to score every time, or almost every time they have the ball.

If the defense wants to get off the field, they can stop them just like the other team stops us.

D had 2 turnovers, didn't they? Iirc.

D doesn’t suck, imo. They're just mediocre against the run. Far as I'm concerned they haven't cost us a game yet. Not to jinx, of course.

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Nerd noted

They're just mediocre against the run.

That's like saying The French are mediocre against invading Germans

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Returning to this threads original subject, I'm confident that ball security was a high priority in practice this week. With the Bears coming to Lambeau, ball security is a must.

Cold will most likely play a role in this game, gloves should be standard equipment for this battle.

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Nerd noted

That's like saying The French are mediocre against invading Germans

D held the Colts to less than 4 yards per rush. They held up in those last two drives as well, one of which was Shephard's fumble on the kickoff.

83 fumbled in FG territory. D can't control that.

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83 fumbled in FG territory. D can't control that.

Undoubtedly, the final nail in the coffin.

But when they had to stop the run in the 3Q, they couldn't/didn't.

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