beast
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a month ago
Sounds like we need a new DB coach, it'll be interesting whom they bring in.

I know one report said all but four Cowboys coaches contract were up and they have Joe Whitt Jr. whom I liked when he was here.

if [color=var(--bs-body-color)]Ejiro Evero doesn't get a DC job anywhere, maybe ask if he's interested in a DB job.

Vikings have been stealing our coaches, so maybe we steal another one of theirs (we got Gray from the Vikings), but they Vikings fired [/color]Ed Donatell whom has been the under Vic Fangio (the guy whose system we're copying)... Donatell has been under Fangio as the DB or DC coach from 2011 to 2021. Of course, Fangio might be planning on bringing him on again if they get a job and supposedly Fangio was hoping to be Sean Peyton's DC (but what if Sean Peyton doesn't get a HC job?)


Also, since the Packers like Georgia defense so much, how about looking into hiring Glenn Schumann, whom is their co-DC and LB coach... and in two months he'll be the age of 33, and have 6 national championships to his name (he was a student assistant at Alabama, then kept going up with Alabama until Kirby Smart make him the first coach he hired for Georgia). Schumann has coaches LBs and DBs. It is a downgrade in terms of co-DC to DB coach, but if it's interested in the pros (not everyone is) then it's an upgrade from college to the pros.


CheeseheadTV wrote:



The Packers are losing their defensive backs coach and defensive passing game coordinator in Jerry Gray, who has accepted a position on Arthur Smith's staff in Atlanta. 

The #Falcons  are working on a deal with veteran defensive coach Jerry Gray to join new coordinator Ryan Nielsen, sources say. Gray, who has been with the #Packers  the past three seasons as DBs coach/pass game coordinator, coached with Arthur Smith in Washington 2007-08.

— Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) January 29, 2023 

[url=https://twitter.com/RobDemovsky/status/1617545791018790913" target="_blank]Gray had reportedly reached the end of his contract[/url] with the Packers. There's no word on whether or not Matt LaFleur and his defensive coordinator, Joe Barry, made any kind of attempt to keep Gray in Green Bay. 

Prior to his time with the Packers, Gray was the defensive backs coach in Minnesota for six seasons. He's also been a defensive coordinator twice, having led the defense for both the Titans and Bills. 

This past May, Gray represented the Packers at the NFL's inaugural Coach and Front Office Accelerator in Atlanta, which brought together 60 diverse head coach and general manager prospects from all clubs.

As for the Packers going forward, Matt LaFleur could either promote from within, such as possibly expanding safeties coach Ryan Downard's responsibilities, or look outside the building while many coaches are making the rounds interviewing for new opportunities. 

Continue Reading @ CheeseheadTV 

Pugger
a month ago
Ok, Matt.  Get Jim Leonard on the phone...
go.pack.go.
a month ago
Lost the coach of the only somewhat bright spot on the defense lol. 

Maybe bringing in someone new will give the defense some new/better ideas so that’s okay.
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TheKanataThrilla
a month ago
Does MLF have a buddy who coaches DBs?  Have a feeling we are in for another nepotism hire.  I hope I am wrong.  
go.pack.go.
a month ago
Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 

Does MLF have a buddy who coaches DBs?  Have a feeling we are in for another nepotism hire.  I hope I am wrong.  



I’m hoping for a hire from outside. Realistically we will probably promote a waterboy from within though. 

I wonder if Barry gets to choose his staff?
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Pugger
a month ago
I find it interesting that no news about this hiring is being reported by either GB or Atlanta.
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a month ago
Originally Posted by: Pugger 

I find it interesting that no news about this hiring is being reported by either GB or Atlanta.


I think that's because it's not official...

Falcons are working on a deal to sign him... it's not signed. 

I don't know that this is the case in this situation, but in the past, if a guys wanted to basically take a lateral, the new team had to give him what I call a mini promotion. Basically add an additional title, which in theory also meant additional pay.

One example of this off the top of my head is after the Packers won the Superbowl, the Packers WR coach retired, then unretired to join his best friend Jason Garrett with the Cowboys.

Cowboys tried hiring him as JUST the WR coach (and since he was technically under contract, the Packers made a fuss about it) and Cowboys then had to give him an additional title as well (which I think got him additional pay) and I believe the title was then WR and Assistant Head Coach.

But it could still potential fall apart.
Zero2Cool
a month ago
Originally Posted by: Pugger 

I find it interesting that no news about this hiring is being reported by either GB or Atlanta.



They're all to busy pontificating about Aaron Rodgers this, Aaron Rodgers that, and Aaron Rodgers everything else. 
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Pugger
a month ago
Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

They're all to busy pontificating about Aaron Rodgers this, Aaron Rodgers that, and Aaron Rodgers everything else. 



I don't think they are pontificating about Rodgers at all.  They are, like the rest of us, waiting to see if Rodgers wants to continue playing.  If he is where he will play in 2023 will depend entirely upon how ready Packers' management feel Love is ready to take the reins.  If Jordon isn't Aaron Rodgers will return as our starter in 2023.  If Love is Gute and company will then approach Rodgers and try to accommodate him and trade him to a team of Rodgers' choosing.
Zero2Cool
a month ago
Originally Posted by: Pugger 

I don't think they are pontificating about Rodgers at all.  They are, like the rest of us, waiting to see if Rodgers wants to continue playing.  If he is where he will play in 2023 will depend entirely upon how ready Packers' management feel Love is ready to take the reins.  If Jordon isn't Aaron Rodgers will return as our starter in 2023.  If Love is Gute and company will then approach Rodgers and try to accommodate him and trade him to a team of Rodgers' choosing.



I am not waiting for Rodgers. Last year he said he'd let the team know before free agency. He's said something similar this season, so why waste a minute waiting for Rodgers until at least March 15th? So, yes, they are absolutely doing nothing more than pontificating in my view. 

When Rodgers lets folks know he's returning for 2023, then is when I'll give a crap about who he'll play for. Until then, it's just a waste of energy for me. I went through something like this back in 2008 and I just don't and will not get emotionally caught up in the pontification garbage again.

I post little things about here because I know most here love that nonsense. That's right, I'm a man of the people, for the people!!! (tongue-in-cheek)
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a month ago
Originally Posted by: Pugger 

I find it interesting that no news about this hiring is being reported by either GB or Atlanta.

You jinxed it
The Falcons have hired respected defensive mind Jerry Gray as assistant head coach/defense, the team announced on Monday. 
beast
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a month ago
Well, Gray's potential replacement could be hiding in plain sight for the Packers.

Aubrey Pleasant
Last year the Lions were going extremely high risk with their DBs and their DBs got burned early and often... and so the Lions head coach said he absolutely hated to do it, because he loved DB coach Aubrey Pleasant but he had to change something... 

And LaFleur and the Packers signed him to help with offense (I assume helping the offense by pointing things out from a defensive protective).


But Aubrey Pleasant has spent 2015 through 2020 on staff with Joe Berry, with both the Commanders and Rams. And Matt LaFleur even was with them for the 2017 Rams.


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Pugger
a month ago
Originally Posted by: beast 

Well, Gray's potential replacement could be hiding in plain sight for the Packers.

Aubrey Pleasant
Last year the Lions were going extremely high risk with their DBs and their DBs got burned early and often... and so the Lions head coach said he absolutely hated to do it, because he loved DB coach Aubrey Pleasant but he had to change something... 

And LaFleur and the Packers signed him to help with offense (I assume helping the offense by pointing things out from a defensive protective).


But Aubrey Pleasant has spent 2015 through 2020 on staff with Joe Berry, with both the Commanders and Rams. And Matt LaFleur even was with them for the 2017 Rams.


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Nothing against Pleasant but I kinda hope we bring someone in from outside the organization.  Sometimes a fresh face with new ideas and prospective can invigorate a team positively.
nerdmann
a month ago
Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. 

Lost the coach of the only somewhat bright spot on the defense lol. 

Maybe bringing in someone new will give the defense some new/better ideas so that’s okay.



I like how he's developed Rasul, but I'm tired of "miscommunications" in the secondary. And wtf is up with Savage? 
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beast
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a month ago
Originally Posted by: Pugger 

Nothing against Pleasant but I kinda hope we bring someone in from outside the organization.  Sometimes a fresh face with new ideas and prospective can invigorate a team positively.

Well, the team on both sides got better after he got here (not saying it was him, but it's still true), and he was supposedly working on offense so he would be new to the defense.

I was hoping we'd have a new defensive coordinator, but that doesn't seem to be the case and our base candidate for an in house replacement left.


Supposedly very few of the Cowboys coaches are under contract but they're still waiting to see what happens. Anyways, they have Joe Whitt Jr. and Al Harris.

 
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