Why do they let this guy talk? lol

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Why do they let Murphy remain in Green Bay ?

WOW...THIS AFFIRMS "WE WANT HIM TO GO"
What a doofus...and terrible negotiator.  He just put all his cards on the table.
FRIGHTENINGLY STUPID.

WOW...THIS AFFIRMS "WE WANT HIM TO GO"
What a doofus...and terrible negotiator.  He just put all his cards on the table.
FRIGHTENINGLY STUPID.

Bullshit, all the cards were already in the table, he did not say anything that we didn't already know. And if we knew it, you better bet all 32 teams knew it.

Packers and Jets PROBABLY already have the trade locked up, but they're just waiting until the 4PM eastern March 15 deadline when all teams have to be under the cap to make it official. PROBABLY.


It's amazing people (not you, but us fans in general), bitch when there is no information, and then we bitch when there is information.

Bullshit, all the cards were already in the table, he did not say anything that we didn't already know. And if we knew it, you better bet all 32 teams knew it.

Packers and Jets PROBABLY already have the trade locked up, but they're just waiting until the 4PM eastern March 15 deadline when all teams have to be under the cap to make it official. PROBABLY.


It's amazing people (not you, but us fans in general), bitch when there is no information, and then we bitch when there is information.

I respectfully totally disagree.  "Unless things don't work out the way we want 'em to, ya..." does NOT mean we want him back. 

I stand by my comments "FRIGHTENINGLY STUPID."

He should have said, "We would love to have him back starting for us...he is the greatest QB I have ever seen play.  But if he wants to explore playing elsehwhere...if that is best for him and OK for the Packers, we would be happy to negotiate a deal that works for everybody"

Bullshit, all the cards were already in the table, he did not say anything that we didn't already know. And if we knew it, you better bet all 32 teams knew it.

Packers and Jets PROBABLY already have the trade locked up, but they're just waiting until the 4PM eastern March 15 deadline when all teams have to be under the cap to make it official. PROBABLY.


It's amazing people (not you, but us fans in general), bitch when there is no information, and then we bitch when there is information.

I'm fine with no information. It's the opinions from reporters that others take as factual reports that crawl up my ass. 

I liked Ted Thompson. He spoke but said nothing. I'd have liked Murphy to be more ambiguous here. Maybe slant it in a way that says sure he can be our started, but if he wants to play elsewhere, we will grant him that if price is right. Retirement? Nah, ya never know, but he's still playing at an elite level and is super competitive. 

This is more nitpick than anything. Because if negotiations are ongoing, don't give them ammo. Oh so you think he can retire but want our 13th? No, we gonna dance differently now! 

Who knows. I sure don't. I'm still feeling retirement is most likely option. 

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I'm fine with no information. It's the opinions from reporters that others take as factual reports that crawl up my ass. 

I liked Ted Thompson. He spoke but said nothing. I'd have liked Murphy to be more ambiguous here. Maybe slant it in a way that says sure he can be our started, but if he wants to play elsewhere, we will grant him that if price is right. Retirement? Nah, ya never know, but he's still playing at an elite level and is super competitive. 

This is more nitpick than anything. Because if negotiations are ongoing, don't give them ammo. Oh so you think he can retire but want our 13th? No, we gonna dance differently now! 

Who knows. I sure don't. I'm still feeling retirement is most likely option. 

I know you are fine with no information, but you are not the average fan. 

I might be wrong, but I believe negotiations were over before the Packers allowed any other team talk with Rodgers. 

As teams have found out the hard way, you lock in the trade price first, before letting teams talk with the player, because if you don't, the other team and player can work together to make any other team hard to impossible and then you're screwed. 

But reports have said the Packers and Jets already have an agreed trade value, just had to get Rodgers to agree.

I respectfully totally disagree.  "Unless things don't work out the way we want 'em to, ya..." does NOT mean we want him back. 

I stand by my comments "FRIGHTENINGLY STUPID."

He should have said, "We would love to have him back starting for us...he is the greatest QB I have ever seen play.  But if he wants to explore playing elsehwhere...if that is best for him and OK for the Packers, we would be happy to negotiate a deal that works for everybody"

What you said was extremely better than what he said in terms of English grammar and sounding intelligent.

But in terms of actual substance, there is no difference.

And I'm judging based on substance, he didn't say anything the entire NFL didn't already know... he didn't give up any additional Packers card for teams to see.


He might of given up a personal card of not asking him to make an on the spot announcement as he's not the best at choosing his words on the spot. But that doesn't matter to the trade value.

 

Yeah I'm with beast here. Murphy didn't say anything out of place.

The entire NFL knows the Packers want to move on from Rodgers. This is self-evident by the fact that they likely have agreed to trade terms already and that they have given Rodgers permission to speak to other teams. You don't start this process if you're not trying to move the guy. There is no putting the toothpaste back into the tube at this point.

Additionally, I think Rodgers would appreciate the honesty if things don't work out with the Jets. The Packers can't pretend like they're not trying to trade him in the press and then do what everyone knows they're doing behind the scenes. 

 

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So, then you guys gotta see it how I stated then. If trade terms were agreed upon, why the delay? Unless Aaron is leaning towards retirement more than Jets. Maybe not leaning hard, but what's the hold up? We gonna just say he's a diva who loves attention and dismiss other options? 

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So, then you guys gotta see it how I stated then. If trade terms were agreed upon, why the delay? Unless Aaron is leaning towards retirement more than Jets. Maybe not leaning hard, but what's the hold up? We gonna just say he's a diva who loves attention and dismiss other options? 

Why the delay?

Maybe because it's currently against the rules for any and all NFL teams to make any trades between the end of the regular season trade deadline and the start of the new year, which this year happens to be March 15 at 4 PM eastern.


​​​​​​Kind of hard to legally trade a player when it's illegal to trade a player...



 

Murph's comments don't bother me too much. I don't see that he has done damage to the situtation. 

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Why the delay?

Maybe because it's currently against the rules for any and all NFL teams to make any trades between the end of the regular season trade deadline and the start of the new year, which this year happens to be March 15 at 4 PM eastern.


​​​​​​Kind of hard to legally trade a player when it's illegal to trade a player...

That doesn't answer the question. That's you being obtuse. You know trade terms have been announced before being official. So, stop being an ass and just say you have absolutely no idea because you're not as creative and knowledgeable as me!!! 🦞

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“It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you’re a fool than to open it and remove all doubt”.  Samuel Langhorne Clemens, a.k.a. Mark Twain.

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That doesn't answer the question. That's you being obtuse. You know trade terms have been announced before being official. So, stop being an ass and just say you have absolutely no idea because you're not as creative and knowledgeable as me!!! 🦞

Actually it quite directly answered the question.

Using my Zero2Cool logic: Why announce something if it's not official? Why not simply wait until you can make it official?

I'm fine with no information. 

Apparently not... as your seemingly having trouble (with the rest of us too, including me) waiting for answers.

PS: I want them to announce the details too buddy, but they seem to be taking your normal logic of not announcing anything until it's finalized.
 

What a sloppy post Beast. I couldn't even include it when I tried to reply with your post.

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“It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you’re a fool than to open it and remove all doubt”.  Samuel Langhorne Clemens, a.k.a. Mark Twain.

Mr C lived before the internet. He would have loved all the tweets and insanity we have today.

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What a sloppy post Beast. I couldn't even include it when I tried to reply with your post.

I don't think that is on me, but this newest editor software... I wanted two quotes and the second one listed first, but it wouldn't post it that way, and so I just copied the first one and put it last and it added extra stuff to it...

Which isn't there in the written text, but shows up in the finished product.

​​​​​ Actually it quite directly answered the question.

Using my Zero2Cool logic: Why announce something if it's not official? Why not simply wait until you can make it official?

Apparently not... as your seemingly having trouble (with the rest of us too, including me) waiting for answers.

PS: I want them to announce the details too buddy, but they seem to be taking your normal logic of not announcing anything until it's finalized. 

You did not answer the question though. You stated the obvious, that trades cannot be official until after March 15th. I know that. You know I know that. However, we are told trade terms in such situations before the new league year. In fact, didn't the Panthers and Bears just agree to a trade that involved a player? 

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I don't think that is on me, but this newest editor software... I wanted two quotes and the second one listed first, but it wouldn't post it that way, and so I just copied the first one and put it last and it added extra stuff to it...

Which isn't there in the written text, but shows up in the finished product.

This is 100% the piece of idiotic bullshit CKEditor and NOT on beast. I edited his post to clean it up, but I really hate this editor. It makes me not want to post.

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You did not answer the question though. You stated the obvious, that trades cannot be official until after March 15th. I know that. You know I know that. However, we are told trade terms in such situations before the new league year. In fact, didn't the Panthers and Bears just agree to a trade that involved a player? 

​​​​​​You asked why they waited, I answered why they waited... is there another question? 

Honestly, no I didn't know you knew that, because truthfully I completely forgot about that rule. I was wrongly thinking trades were allowed post Super Bowl. But not allowed until the new league year.

They announced the Bears/Panthers trade details, but it can't become official until the new league year, so in theory, either or both teams, in theory could back out of the deal and both could have egg in their face.

Just like people jumped on Murphy in this thread about speaking before the trade becomes official... claiming he's showing his hand.

And we're also jumping on to them for not releasing the details, and not showing their trade hand before it becomes official.

We the fans are complaining about it both ways. But why does that matter to the team? Shouldn't they just go the Thompson route and say nothing until it's official? Isn't that what you claimed you liked? Because I think that is what they're doing.

I think they've agreed to say nothing until it becomes official.

Pure guess, another reason they might of doen that, is because one or both sides fan bases won't be happy with the trade compensation... and if they do it post league new year, they'll have free agency to distract the national media.... and only have to deal with fans and local media..... where if they do it now, 100% of fans and NFL media focus on it, as they have absolutely nothing else to focus on.

So to get away from some of the ridiculous media that you complain about, all they have to do is wait until they can make it official.
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This is 100% the piece of idiotic bullshit CKEditor and NOT on beast. I edited his post to clean it up, but I really hate this editor. It makes me not want to post.

Thank you very much for addressing that. When I used to have something funky with a post, I would try to clean it up.

But with this newest editor, especially with pasting anything in or editing anything, it'll just add extra stuff and just keep making it worse.

PS: I'm not meaning to complain, but just stating what I believe to be facts and why I don't fit the code stuff (as the editor with just make it worse when I try). Thank you for this amazing site, I just got to remember I can't paste without something funky happening in this editor.

​​​​​​They announced the Bears/Panthers trade details, but it can't become official until the new league year, so in theory, either or both teams, in theory could back out of the deal and both could have egg in their face.

Exactly. So, again, I ask. If the trade terms are agreed on (assuming that report they are while simultaneously ignoring the report stating otherwise), why wouldn't the terms be disclosed? I used to mock folks for saying "discuss" because I felt a damn forum discussion board was damn obvious of that. 

HOWEVER!!! 

Discuss. 


My guess is teams agreed, but Aaron hasn't made his decision to play and to play for Jets. I think if it was any other team in AFC, the decision would be a bit easier. I really don't think he wants to walk in Favre footsteps anymore. So, for me, I wonder if the delay is hoping another team jumps in. Or maybe he's truly torn on retiring with one franchise for playing another year (or more) with a different one? We know how important the single franchise legacy is for him. He's stated it a few times, citing Kobe, Jeter, etc. I think we haven't heard terms because only two of the three parties have agreed. And that third one is hyper sensitive fella. Or as Murphy has said, "complicated fella". 

Edit, Jalen Ramsey to Dolphins and trade terms are for 3rd round pick an TE Hunter Long. So weird this is disclosed when it cannot become official until next week. 😉

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I know you are fine with no information, but you are not the average fan. 

I might be wrong, but I believe negotiations were over before the Packers allowed any other team talk with Rodgers. 

As teams have found out the hard way, you lock in the trade price first, before letting teams talk with the player, because if you don't, the other team and player can work together to make any other team hard to impossible and then you're screwed. 

But reports have said the Packers and Jets already have an agreed trade value, just had to get Rodgers to agree.

Thank you for the kind words -- I think! lol

It's mildly interesting that recently Mark Murphy said he was "sworn to secrecy" regarding Aaron Rodgers to Jets. I say mildly because the dude is the de-facto Owner of the Packers, or as we known him as literally the CEO. 

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