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Offline evad04  
#16 Posted : Monday, September 22, 2008 12:45:12 AM(UTC)

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Wow. Immediate evaluations are always so delicious -- especially when people say "one reason only."

C'mon krazy, there were a lot of undesirable things about tonight's game.

That isn't to say I've lost faith or anything. We played a very good team. It's impossible to load up the box to stop Barber/Jones when you have T.O. and Witten that require so much attention.

It's tough to rush only four and get pressure against a massive o-line.

It's tough NOT to give up a big pass here or there when the run game is already established and you have to account for T.O.

It was the culmination of ALL of these -- and ALSO that the run game wasn't quite there and the Packers couldn't put it in the endzone. Brandon Jackson looks impressive -- I think that should be noted.

Dallas is a VERY TOUGH team to defend, we made some mistakes, and we couldn't get the ball in the endzone.

We lost to a very good team. We'll be alright, and hopefully we'll get healthier and we'll learn a few things from the game.
Offline Rockjock07  
#17 Posted : Monday, September 22, 2008 12:49:07 AM(UTC)

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Either Ryan Grant is not healthy or the league is figuring him out because he's been very average this season. Jackson should get the majority of snaps next week. With that said, there should have been a commitment to the run tonight, ball control keeps the Cowboys offense off the field.

The 3 big plays also killed the packers. Also, the flags are starting to became more of a problem that continues to take away big plays for this team.
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#18 Posted : Monday, September 22, 2008 12:51:56 AM(UTC)

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Grant only had 13 carries and he netted over 50 yards. He wasn't given the ball often enough with decent blocking.

This was not Grant's fault.
Offline Pack93z  
#19 Posted : Monday, September 22, 2008 12:58:06 AM(UTC)

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Easy answer... we got controlled at the line of scrimmage.. both sides.. we were suspect on our offensive line and their Oline just flat out wore our Dline down... that is one massive athletic front 5 the Cows have on offense.

Playcalling was limited because we couldn't pass protect well enough.. Rodgers was moving all night long.
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#20 Posted : Monday, September 22, 2008 1:00:38 AM(UTC)

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Evad.. I agree.. nothing to get all excited about.. we had chances early.. we settled for FG's and their front wore us down.. I think it is clear on elite fronts our oline needs to step it up a little more.. the speed of the boys caused us struggles. Look familiar, it should same time of front (speed) that got us last January..
Offline GreenBlood  
#21 Posted : Monday, September 22, 2008 1:02:13 AM(UTC)

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Our running game wasn't that bad. we couldn't stop their offense that was why we lost. we couldn't get them off the field


And that problem started exactly when Harris left the game. Tramon Williams is AWFUL.
Offline shield4life  
#22 Posted : Monday, September 22, 2008 1:02:25 AM(UTC)

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What was wrong with harris my tv was a bit screwed today with weather and stuff ... so i wasn't catching it really clearly , um did he get injured in the game or?
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#23 Posted : Monday, September 22, 2008 1:03:13 AM(UTC)

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Rodgers had no time........and our WR's didn't get open, against mediocre
CB's.
They are much better then us. Eagles are too.
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#24 Posted : Monday, September 22, 2008 1:04:04 AM(UTC)

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Grant only had 13 carries and he netted over 50 yards. He wasn't given the ball often enough with decent blocking.

This was not Grant's fault.


I agree, the play calling has been a little shady however, I'm not totally convinced that he is healthy. Jackson just seemed to have a burst tonight were Ryan was hit once and went down.

Also, the holding calls are just KILLING us. Those Veteran tackles need to get it together.

Also, does anyone else feel like we need to add a dynamic pass rusher opposite Kampmann. I know it's not that easy to pick someone like that up but maybe commit a 1st round pick in a player that can put some pressure on the qb. Cullen is a solid player but I think its a position that could be upgraded, along with the DT position.
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#25 Posted : Monday, September 22, 2008 1:09:53 AM(UTC)

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They capitalized on mistakes and we didn't. They got 21 points off of three plays basically (the two throws to Austin, one that was a TD and the other set one up, and the long Felix Jones run). The offense needed to stay on the field and they didn't do that. If the offense stays on the field our defense doesn't get so worn down. Props to them, they played a hell of a game, and we'll be coming for them come the playoffs.
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#26 Posted : Monday, September 22, 2008 1:49:28 AM(UTC)

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only completed 4 3rd downs. and couldn't stop their run. That's why we lost.

Our OL really needs to improve. We're lucky we have Aaron Rodgers or it would have been really ugly.
Offline evad04  
#27 Posted : Monday, September 22, 2008 11:27:40 AM(UTC)

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For the record -- Rodgers completed a 50-yarder to Driver in the third quarter. But, we couldn't punch it in from inside the 10. We took the field goal, and the Cowboys came back and scored another TD to go up 20-9. Those two drives -- our non-TD and their TD -- were CRUCIAL.
Offline NodakPaul  
#28 Posted : Monday, September 22, 2008 11:34:30 AM(UTC)

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Rodgers didn't look as good as he did in the first two games, but in all honesty you were playing against the best team on your schedule. I doubt you will face a team of Dallas's caliber again until the playoffs. Plus Dallas controlled the LOS, and that is the best way to win games.

GB should fare better against the Bucs next weekend.
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#29 Posted : Monday, September 22, 2008 11:52:42 AM(UTC)

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We sucked on both sides of the ball.
Our D couldn't stop them, our O couldnt score

Add 14 flags and that completely summs it up.


Huh? We only had 8. I thought that was one of the areas we actually improved in... and the unnecessary roughness call on Humphrey was complete BS. As near as I could tell, he was flagged for not retaliating after getting decked twice on the same play.

If I had to pin this loss on just one thing it would be our defensive scheme:
- we couldn't stop the run
- we couldn't overcome our injuries. Not having Bigby really hurt the run-D.
- we weren't aggressive. We got good pressure from the front four, but a little creative blitzing would have gone a long way.
Offline Since69  
#30 Posted : Monday, September 22, 2008 11:59:22 AM(UTC)

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What was wrong with harris my tv was a bit screwed today with weather and stuff ... so i wasn't catching it really clearly , um did he get injured in the game or?


Harris was cramping early, and he crashed into one of our LBs (Hawk?) on one play (and got the worst of it). McCarthy said after the game he had blood in his urine - probably from that hit.
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