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Pack93z  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, September 29, 2010 3:24:24 PM(UTC)
Sad to say, we need to have a common method for handling this issue in both leagues for consistency sake.

We have one player already inactive for 19 days and this weekend that team has inactive players.. so for fairness sake, we need to have a method for dealing with this situation out front.

My recommendation is this, freeze the roster at this point and have the league commissioner set the starting lineup for said team. No player transactions can be made from this team until the owner returns or a new player can be found to replace it.

Publish in the comment section that the roster lineup has been set by the commissioner for transparency sake.. if there is any disagreement with the lineups, they can be suggested before the weeks schedule has started.

The point here is to try and avoid basic forfeit weeks to any teams.

Thoughts?
dfosterf  
#2 Posted : Wednesday, September 29, 2010 3:54:05 PM(UTC)
It's you and Kev--yes?

Commish-wise?

I'm all for that.
Packers_Finland  
#3 Posted : Wednesday, September 29, 2010 3:55:24 PM(UTC)
Yeah, as long as you don't replace their guys from the waiver wire, I'm fine with this
Pack93z  
#4 Posted : Wednesday, September 29, 2010 4:32:59 PM(UTC)
The only objective that should be established here.. is to provide some sense of competitive balance amongst the league.. no gimme weeks.
Packers_Finland  
#5 Posted : Wednesday, September 29, 2010 4:40:03 PM(UTC)
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The only objective that should be established here.. is to provide some sense of competitive balance amongst the league.. no gimme weeks.


Stop talking about "competitive balance" when Dodd has had teams score 261 points on him in 3 weeks while I have had 410 points scored against me in the same time. That's 50 more points a week.

Just kidding though, I agree.
Pack93z  
#6 Posted : Wednesday, September 29, 2010 7:51:28 PM(UTC)
Don't have to tell me about it.. I got 217 points hung on me in another league.. I scored the 4th highest in the week and got waxed by 50+... lol.

I am sucking doughnuts so far this season in the win column.. and Foster is getting thirsty. ;)
doddpower  
#7 Posted : Friday, October 1, 2010 1:15:45 PM(UTC)
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The only objective that should be established here.. is to provide some sense of competitive balance amongst the league.. no gimme weeks.


Stop talking about "competitive balance" when Dodd has had teams score 261 points on him in 3 weeks while I have had 410 points scored against me in the same time. That's 50 more points a week.

Just kidding though, I agree.


Hey man, that's fantasy football. It's not about how many points one scores or are scored against him, only that he scores more than his opponent that week.

In my main league, a pay league with a $55 buy in, I am doing TERRIBLE! Haven't even come close to winning a game yet and it's the league with all family and close friends. I was so stoked about my draft and thought I was going to dominate. A Ryan Grant injury, Ryan Mathews bust so far, Favre sucking, Colston disappointing and I have a recipe for sucking. At this point, I'll be lucky to win a single game.

=(
Zero2Cool  
#8 Posted : Friday, October 1, 2010 2:28:40 PM(UTC)
Inactivity is a downer. We'll have to keep note of those who are active and invite them back next year and make note of those who are not and block them next year.

I am extremely strongly adamant against changing anything with the leagues, which is why I posted information far ahead of time, to avoid changes after the season started.


I am also strongly adamantly extremely pissed at those who are inactive, but not to the point where I'll change rules after I said specifically, no changes after a said date.


Sorry for upsetting anyone with this news. But changing things mid season is what got me pissed off in the other league last year. I'd be rightly viewed a hypocrite if I were to change rules in a PH league.
Zero2Cool  
#9 Posted : Friday, October 1, 2010 2:32:28 PM(UTC)
Wow, Nonstopdrivel and The_Green_Ninja are inactive for 24 days and two months respectively.

The_Green_Ninja wanted to MANAGE one of the leagues! I made the right choice there.


Nonstopdrivel, I just don't understand. I know he's alive and poking the ladies about.
Pack93z  
#10 Posted : Friday, October 1, 2010 2:42:53 PM(UTC)
Okay.. so we are going to allow freebie weeks against teams with inactive players?

I understand and respect the no changes concept.. but I think not dealing with the issue creates more of an issue than staying with the hard line.. either way though..
Packers_Finland  
#11 Posted : Friday, October 1, 2010 3:06:57 PM(UTC)
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Okay.. so we are going to allow freebie weeks against teams with inactive players?

I understand and respect the no changes concept.. but I think not dealing with the issue creates more of an issue than staying with the hard line.. either way though..


Shut up already... I'm playing a guy who's starting Peterson (bye week) and Moreno (injured)
doddpower  
#12 Posted : Friday, October 1, 2010 3:11:06 PM(UTC)
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Okay.. so we are going to allow freebie weeks against teams with inactive players?

I understand and respect the no changes concept.. but I think not dealing with the issue creates more of an issue than staying with the hard line.. either way though..


That sounds like a TERRIBLE idea to me. It's not really changing the rules but rather doing whatever is possible since certain people aren't keeping up their end of the bargain.

Free wins diminish the quality of the entire league significantly.

Also, for next year, it would be nice to have a injured reserve spot. Flea Flicker has a nice option for this and we use it in another league. It's nice.
Pack93z  
#13 Posted : Friday, October 1, 2010 3:15:17 PM(UTC)
Well, looks like the two week inactive is suddenly active again.. immediate issue is resolved in the A league.
Zero2Cool  
#14 Posted : Friday, October 1, 2010 3:26:02 PM(UTC)
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Okay.. so we are going to allow freebie weeks against teams with inactive players?

I understand and respect the no changes concept.. but I think not dealing with the issue creates more of an issue than staying with the hard line.. either way though..


That sounds like a TERRIBLE idea to me. It's not really changing the rules but rather doing whatever is possible since certain people aren't keeping up their end of the bargain.

Free wins diminish the quality of the entire league significantly.

Also, for next year, it would be nice to have a injured reserve spot. Flea Flicker has a nice option for this and we use it in another league. It's nice.



If I change things now, then that shows I fail on sticking to my word. If it's a unanimous vote for one aspect through both leagues, I'm okay with changing it up.

doddpower, that is something we'll have to discuss for next year and I do like the idea.






I'm really not intentionally trying to be obtuse about this, but there's little that can be done, in my opinion.

If someone played against a team that has an injured starter already, why should the rest of the league not have that fair chance to get the freebie too? This is why I think rules need to be established before the season starts.

If dhazer got to play a team that had an injured starter, then we boot dhazer's opponent because of inactivity, how's that fair to the rest? Why should the other teams not have a fair crack at fools?
Zero2Cool  
#15 Posted : Friday, October 1, 2010 3:26:57 PM(UTC)
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Well, looks like the two week inactive is suddenly active again.. immediate issue is resolved in the A league.



What do you suggest we do about it? Kick them from the league after 21 days of inactivity?
doddpower  
#16 Posted : Friday, October 1, 2010 4:27:29 PM(UTC)
I think anything can be done if the majority of the league (somewhere between (70-80%) wants it.

Personally, I don't want a freebie. I don't care if person A, B, and C all got one. I'm not playing fantasy football to be given anything, I'm playing for the competition. If an opponent doesn't even have a starting lineup then the entire point of playing is negated, at least for that week. They'll be no anticipation or anxiety watching the score for that week if a person has 2 people on byes and one injured.

Just what I think, although I'm sure others feel differently.
Zero2Cool  
#17 Posted : Friday, October 1, 2010 5:07:47 PM(UTC)
What if someone who purposely set their team up like that and has a set it and forget it method until the final bye week has concluded.

I do think maybe if someone is inactive for 21 or more days, we drop them from the league, but then what becomes of their players and the schedule?
Zero2Cool  
#18 Posted : Friday, October 1, 2010 5:10:27 PM(UTC)
I am not in favor of having the commissioner setting the team at all. Unless the commissioner does not have a team in the league, its a conflict of interests.

Maybe at day 18, post there's a team available and if by day 21 they are still inactive, the team is awarded to the first person to put claim to it that is not already in either league?
doddpower  
#19 Posted : Friday, October 1, 2010 5:48:28 PM(UTC)
I'm not concerned about a commissioner setting the team. C'mon now, I trust you dudes better than that, especially Pack. Plus, he even suggested that if anyone has a problem with it, it can be changed. They'd just be setting the most obvious starts, something as simple as putting an eligible person in for a bye week, etc. Most the people playing are pretty easy going so I don't really think it needs to be so politically correct, if you will. At least not for me.

A league has to be flexible in order to enjoy optimum success. I have run several leagues for years, mostly leagues involving money, and flexibility has been key. Sometimes things come up and a rigid governing system just doesn't work well my opinion. We're not talking about things like changing waiver orders or anything like that. Of course that should be static. But a situation that brings down the quality of the league needs to be addressed and in my experience most members are more than willing and want such actions to be taken.
Zero2Cool  
#20 Posted : Friday, October 1, 2010 5:51:11 PM(UTC)
You just alluded to the point. You said you trust us dudes, then singled Pack out in that, which is saying you trust him more than me.


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