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Friday, December 23, 2011 12:41:04 PM(UTC)
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zombieslayer said: 
With all due respect, I used to carpool with a Motorcycle Mechanic. I had just started my first job in Software Engineering. I forgot the context, but he called himself stupid. I said, "you're not stupid. You're smarter than half the Engineers I work with. You could get broken vehicles to work and make head shots at 100 meters without a scope."
Yes, I was serious.
In the ol' Dungeons & Dragons, there's Intelligence & Wisdom. They are two separate scores. In real life, I have about a 15 or 16 Intelligence and a 6 or 7 Wisdom. I'll do stupid stuff that very few other people here will do in real life. I've made more mistakes than any of you. The ONLY reason we're doing well today is that I happen to be very good at accounting.
If I had my Intelligence and your Wisdom, I'd be unstoppable. Unfortunately I got my Intelligence and my common sense, of which the latter is pretty close to nil.
You were suppose to say, no Dakota - you're the smartest fkr in here. [grin1] But I guess I'll settle for wisdom. Really all wisodm would be is the tenacity to survive bullshit - but that's what I am - an unlucky dumbass.
Merry Christmas Nostraslayer - according to the prophets we have less than a year to go - Maybe we should go get Wade laid next fall?
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Friday, December 23, 2011 1:40:29 PM(UTC)
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DakotaT said: 
You were suppose to say, no Dakota - you're the smartest fkr in here. [grin1] But I guess I'll settle for wisdom. Really all wisodm would be is the tenacity to survive bullshit - but that's what I am - an unlucky dumbass.
Merry Christmas Nostraslayer - according to the prophets we have less than a year to go - Maybe we should go get Wade laid next fall?
Maybe the rest of you have a year to go but I'm living to be downright nasty, and I'll rub it in to all those unappreciative young brats that I'll never die and they'll never inherit my money.
Merry Christmas Dakota, and Merry Christmas as well to anyone reading this.
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Friday, December 23, 2011 2:13:46 PM(UTC)
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nerdmann said: 
LOL, Lang is good, but over Sitton? I guess they count the guard spots as different positions, but Dann! And Bush!?
There is always heavy favoritism toward the left side of the offensive line in these things (and all-pro for that matter) and they don't separate the positions into LT/RT etc it's just T and G. Usually the pro bowl lines are 2 LTs and 2 LGs. It's completely stupid.
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Friday, December 23, 2011 2:23:11 PM(UTC)
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Stevetarded said: 
There is always heavy favoritism toward the left side of the offensive line in these things (and all-pro for that matter) and they don't separate the positions into LT/RT etc it's just T and G. Usually the pro bowl lines are 2 LTs and 2 LGs. It's completely stupid.
Is it?
The Left side is where you put your better blocker. Like it or not, the O is built around the QB. His health is your #1 concern long-term.
Most QBs are right-handed. Just how it is. If a guy is coming from his right side, he can see it and take appropriate measures. If a guy is coming from his left side, especially around the Left Tackle, he may be blindsided.
I don't have the stats for it, but I can almost guarantee you that when a QB gets injured in a sack, it's more likely that he got injured from his Left side and not the Right.
Even more of a guarantee, when a QB fumbles it's more than likely from the Left side as well. If you know you're gonna get hit, you protect the ball. That's what you're trained to do.
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Friday, December 23, 2011 2:40:27 PM(UTC)
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DakotaT said: 
I told you dumbasses this before. Cliff Clavin used the word to describe Carla's new husband when he was goaltending for the Bruins.
Oh yeah, that's how much detail I put into television. I have a mind chock full of uselessness.
chalk*
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Friday, December 23, 2011 2:46:27 PM(UTC)
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No, "chock" is correct. [duh]
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Friday, December 23, 2011 3:46:03 PM(UTC)
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Nonstopdrivel said: 
No, "chock" is correct. [duh]
Nice try Zero, I guess there's somebody in here I'm smarter than. Congratulations on successfully navigating a truck through 4 or 5 states.
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Friday, December 23, 2011 7:06:22 PM(UTC)
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Nonstopdrivel said: 
No, "chock" is correct. [duh]
Unless he was saying DakotaT's mind if full of chalk.
Which is pretty funny to me.
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Friday, December 23, 2011 10:17:34 PM(UTC)
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Nonstopdrivel said: 
A
Mamluk (transliterated variously as
mamlouk,
mamluq,
mamluke,
mameluk,
mameluke,
mamaluke or
marmeluke) was a slave who served as a soldier in Arabic cultures from the 9th through 19th century. The word comes from the Arabic مملوك (
mamlūk), which meant "owned."


The famous Mameluke sword looks like this:

They are still carried by U.S. Marines in certain ceremonial contexts.

As an insult, it fails. I think people try to use it with the connotation of "troglodyte" or "Neanderthal" or something similar, but it misses wide of the mark.
This reminds me of "nimrod" used as an insult. Nimrod is a hunter or some such thing.
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Saturday, December 24, 2011 4:22:10 PM(UTC)
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rabidgopher04 said: 
This reminds me of "nimrod" used as an insult. Nimrod is a hunter or some such thing.
Yes, the original Nimrod was from the Bible somewhere. NSD can probably fill us in as I haven't read the whole thing. He was a great hunter.
So the modern definition of Nimrod means great hunter. But yeah, it sounds funny so the morons turned a compliment into an insult.
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Saturday, December 24, 2011 6:31:54 PM(UTC)
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zombieslayer said: 
Is it?
The Left side is where you put your better blocker. Like it or not, the O is built around the QB. His health is your #1 concern long-term.
Most QBs are right-handed. Just how it is. If a guy is coming from his right side, he can see it and take appropriate measures. If a guy is coming from his left side, especially around the Left Tackle, he may be blindsided.
I don't have the stats for it, but I can almost guarantee you that when a QB gets injured in a sack, it's more likely that he got injured from his Left side and not the Right.
Even more of a guarantee, when a QB fumbles it's more than likely from the Left side as well. If you know you're gonna get hit, you protect the ball. That's what you're trained to do.
Yes it's stupid. Just because most teams prefer to have their better blocker at LT doesn't mean that's always that case either. Look at the Packers line. Bulaga/Sitton are a hell of a lot better than Clifton/Lang. It's perfectly reasonable to think that a player at RT was a better player in a given season than another player at LT.
Even assuming the left side is more important the difference really to me is not that significant (especially at the G position), a crappy RT can destroy an offense pretty much as easily as a crappy LT (see Alan Barbre).
I don't have a problem really if the best players during a season are indeed both left side players but I think it's stupid that a player on the right side is automatically dismissed and it is assumed any left side player was better. Like Sitton last year he won awards for being one of the best offensive lineman in all of football and I don't think he got anywhere near an all-pro vote. A player who sat out half the season made 1st team all-pro.
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Sunday, December 25, 2011 2:46:03 PM(UTC)
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Stevetarded said: 
Yes it's stupid. Just because most teams prefer to have their better blocker at LT doesn't mean that's always that case either. Look at the Packers line. Bulaga/Sitton are a hell of a lot better than Clifton/Lang. It's perfectly reasonable to think that a player at RT was a better player in a given season than another player at LT.
Even assuming the left side is more important the difference really to me is not that significant (especially at the G position), a crappy RT can destroy an offense pretty much as easily as a crappy LT (see Alan Barbre).
I don't have a problem really if the best players during a season are indeed both left side players but I think it's stupid that a player on the right side is automatically dismissed and it is assumed any left side player was better. Like Sitton last year he won awards for being one of the best offensive lineman in all of football and I don't think he got anywhere near an all-pro vote. A player who sat out half the season made 1st team all-pro.
You still didn't address my 2 points though:
1) Sacks from the Left side are more likely to lead in QB injury (an assumption, I have no stats for this),
2) Sacks from the Left side are more likely to lead to fumbles (also an assumption, but from watching lots of football from 1976 to 2011, there's a lot of experience in my noggin).
Both points are why both coaches and voters have prejudices against the Right side.
I'm not saying it isn't stupid. I'm just explaining "why" it is what it is.
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Thursday, January 30, 2014 6:37:19 AM(UTC)
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when you dig out an ancient thread that is long since dead you should indicate it somehow. It is very confusing.
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Thursday, January 30, 2014 6:56:08 AM(UTC)
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wpr said: 
when you dig out an ancient thread that is long since dead you should indicate it somehow. It is very confusing.
lol it's really quite random. I check the users to see what their seeing and this page had 9 guests on it. Clicked it. Rourke? Rourke who!!
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Thursday, January 30, 2014 8:00:25 AM(UTC)
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Zero2Cool said: 
lol it's really quite random. I check the users to see what their seeing and this page had 9 guests on it. Clicked it. Rourke? Rourke who!!
I was just messing with you.
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