Zero2Cool
12 years ago
No sir, I do get your point. I am saying, the positives for penalizing them is not worth while. You even indicated as such with the next CBA, NFLPA using this as leverage, etc ... that's where I'm saying, they didn't even break any actual rule, so quit penalizing them because it's going to blow up in your face.


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Pack93z
12 years ago

No sir, I do get your point. I am saying, the positives for penalizing them is not worth while. You even indicated as such with the next CBA, NFLPA using this as leverage, etc ... that's where I'm saying, they didn't even break any actual rule, so quit penalizing them because it's going to blow up in your face.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



There I agree.. but one thing we also know about NFL owners in general, they have very large egos and this speaks of flexing their muscle back upon those that broke rank.

Yes.. IMO, the net result is a net loss for the owners in general. But using emotion in place of logic is generally a net loss overall.

I didn't see this move coming from the NFL, as it exposes them for past actions, but I can understand why they are doing it. Jones and Snyder played the rest.. and they cannot stand to be have been taken.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Pack93z
11 years ago
The NFLPA didn't wait long to jump on this one, that is once the ruling was upheld.

It was a misplay by the owners.. they themselves opened this can of worms up via a collusion charge being levied upon the league. And the league, via the ruling against the Cowboys and Redskins, basically proved the case of the PA.


"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Zero2Cool
11 years ago
I don't much like that the NFL penalized the Redskins and Cowboys. I don't know wink nod agreement the owners may have had with one another either. I just think penalty benefits no one and has negative ramifications.
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Pack93z
11 years ago
By all rights.. per the rules, I agree, they should be held no penalty.

But again, the egos of the owners compelled them to take action.

And that same ego drove Jerry and Danny Boy to appeal... and honestly from the standpoint I believe they were just in challenging this.

But it still doesn't change that the egos of the owners opened themselves up to this latest action by the NFLPA.. and thus will damage future leverage for the owners. Mark this little issue the next lockout/strike. It will play large.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
gbguy20
11 years ago
My favorite part about this whole thing is that the NFLPA agreed to the cap penalties and now here they are suing.
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