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Offline RaiderPride  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, October 1, 2008 1:15:55 AM(UTC)
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Why?

Why the hell does this crap even happen? It is not like a landslide on a highway, or mother nature kicking in.

I am serious. There is no reason for it. It makes no sense. It has no reason. I mean, really, why?

If someone can explain this to me, please do. I just can not even understand why, even though I know why, it is still a stupid why?

JACKSONVILLE, Fla.

Jacksonville Jaguars offensive tackle Richard Collier, shot earlier this month, is paralyzed below the waist and had his left leg amputated.

Dr. Andy Kerwin, a surgeon for the University of Florida at Shands Jacksonville hospital, said Collier, who had 14 bullet wounds, is now in good condition after being previously listed in critical condition.

Kerwin said Collier had bullet wounds to the back, left groin, left legs and right buttock. In addition, a bullet severed his spinal cord, paralyzing him from the waist down. The amputation was the result of damage to his left leg and groin, which had blood clots.

The 26-year-old Collier had five bullets removed from his urinary bladder and suffered bouts of pneumonia, infections and renal failure.

The player will undergo physical therapy to learn to get from his bed to a wheelchair. He will never walk again, the doctor said.

Collier was on a ventilator for about three weeks and has no memory of the shooting, Kerwin said.

"His overall condition has improved greatly," Kerwin said. "We expect him to be discharged soon."

"He has extreme grief for a lifetime of dreams he won't be able to fulfill," the agent said.

Jankovich refused to say when Collier would be released, citing security concerns.

Jaguars coach Jack Del Rio and several players attended the news conference.

"It's a tragedy this young man was caught up in this violence," Del Rio said. "It's a great tragedy for a young man who had such a promising future."

Offensive tackle Tony Pashos said, "It has been difficult. I think about him a lot."

Collier and former teammate Kenneth Pettway were waiting for two women outside an apartment complex early Sept. 2 when a gunman fired into the vehicle, according to the Jacksonville Sheriff's Office. Pettway was not injured.

The motive behind the attack on Collier is unknown, but investigators said earlier he appeared to be targeted. Police have made no arrests in the shooting.

Collier was in his third year with the NFL after graduating from Valdosta State.

Collier was the third NFL player shot in the past 18 months.
Offline evad04  
#2 Posted : Wednesday, October 1, 2008 2:32:07 AM(UTC)
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It's an absolute tragedy. I don't want to get away from the impact this has on the individual lives at stake -- but I can't help but attempt to see the bigger picture: gun violence. I'm not talking about gun ownership -- I'm talking about gun violence. It's to the point where if someone disagrees with you (or does nothing at all!) just pull the trigger. I can't imagine what it would be like to be in Collier's shoes. Even in ATTEMPTING to understand it it's shattering.
Offline 4PackGirl  
#3 Posted : Wednesday, October 1, 2008 8:49:14 AM(UTC)
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thanks for posting this rp. i read it earlier yesterday & it literally made my stomach turn. incredibly sad & tragic.
Offline Cheesey  
#4 Posted : Wednesday, October 1, 2008 1:55:32 PM(UTC)
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It's because...........there are LOTS of evil people in this world. Waste of human skin if you ask me.
People want what YOU have, and they don't want to work for it. It's MUCH easier to pull out a weapon, and shoot someone and TAKE it.
I'm not sure if this shooting was a robbery, or if Collier "looked" at the shooter wrong. Thats the world we live in today.
The thread about "illegal immigration" has a comment by Zombie, where he tells how kids are afraid to even make eye contact with other kids. How did we get to that point? My view is this: They teach kids that THEY are special, THEY are important. So the kids get this false feeling of how only "THEY" matter. If you don't teach kids to RESPECT others and their property, this is the result you get. I'm not just blaming schools....this kind of attitude is taught at home too.....unfortunatly.
We have lost our moral compass it seems.
I could list reasons why, but i think it would make some people mad.
Offline zombieslayer  
#5 Posted : Wednesday, October 1, 2008 4:42:42 PM(UTC)
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I like what Cheesey said.

'Tis true unfortunately. There are people who genuinely have no remorse for their fellow human beings.
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