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Offline Mucky Tundra  
#1 Posted : Monday, September 9, 2013 5:44:40 PM(UTC)
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The Green Bay Packers just fell short in their 28 — 34 loss against the San Francisco 49ers. The season opener showed a Packers team that can compete with the top tier teams of the NFL. Despite the loss, it bodes well that Green Bay matched the Niners' level of physical play and were in [...]

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Offline Mucky Tundra  
#2 Posted : Monday, September 9, 2013 5:51:29 PM(UTC)
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Interesting that Lacy ran well from shotgun and spread formations. They may have to lean on that in the future against teams like the Giants. Also wondering why not use either Starks or Franklin yesterday from a spread formation and try to use their speed. I know Franklin struggled in preseason but just give him a toss to the outside or something. And while it wasn't mentioned in the article, why bench Lacy when you specifically drafted him for these games? Make him run extra laps or something during the week.
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Offline PackFanWithTwins  
#3 Posted : Monday, September 9, 2013 6:11:45 PM(UTC)
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Same story different day. Our run game has basically been inconsistent to down right terrible for years. And it all started with one event. Hiring of McCarthy and changing of the blocking scheme. It hasn't worked in GB.

The reason things work better in the spread and gun is because they are not dependent as much on the Oline opening holes. It is more blocking the defender out of the way the direction they are going. The scheme turned both Tauscher and Clifton who were both good blockers prior into less than average run blockers. And it is doing the same for our guys now.

Not to forget that in the preseason, we seldom ran with the first team.


If we should worry about Lacy being 14 for 41. SF should really worry about Gore being 21 for 44.

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#4 Posted : Monday, September 9, 2013 9:16:14 PM(UTC)
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Yeah, our O Line is so absolutely piss poor that you could have Adrian Peterson or Jim Brown in his prime, and they couldn't just ram it into the backward moving butts of the O Linemen and gain anything. (yeah, I suppose Barry Sanders could run even under those circumstances).

Anyway, the point is, we have the greatest passing attack in the world. The key to "getting the running game going" is NOT forcing the running game to get going - just do what we do best, PASS, then hit 'em with a few change of paces - runs. And even then, it better be run with some form of deception, because our pathetic O Linemen can't block straight up worth shit.
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Offline yooperfan  
#5 Posted : Tuesday, September 10, 2013 10:08:29 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker Go to Quoted Post
Yeah, our O Line is so absolutely piss poor that you could have Adrian Peterson or Jim Brown in his prime, and they couldn't just ram it into the backward moving butts of the O Linemen and gain anything. (yeah, I suppose Barry Sanders could run even under those circumstances).

Anyway, the point is, we have the greatest passing attack in the world. The key to "getting the running game going" is NOT forcing the running game to get going - just do what we do best, PASS, then hit 'em with a few change of paces - runs. And even then, it better be run with some form of deception, because our pathetic O Linemen can't block straight up worth sh!t.


I have given up all hope that TT, Mike McCarthy and James Campen will ever develop a decent offensive line for the Green Bay Packers.
Drafting, coaching and what ever "scheme" they are using has been and probably will remain in the pathetic category.
Throw in the football gods that are determined that any bright spot that does happen to show up will be lost to injury.

So under the current regime I have resigned myself to the fact that we are destined to have a bunch of fat asses who would be no more than back ups on upper echelon football teams protecting the most valuable QB in the NFL and closing the very holes they are supposed to open for running backs.

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Offline StoicFire  
#6 Posted : Tuesday, September 10, 2013 10:16:11 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: yooperfan Go to Quoted Post
I have given up all hope that TT, Mike McCarthy and James Campen will ever develop a decent offensive line for the Green Bay Packers.
Drafting, coaching and what ever "scheme" they are using has been and probably will remain in the pathetic category.
Throw in the football gods that are determined that any bright spot that does happen to show up will be lost to injury.

So under the current regime I have resigned myself to the fact that we are destined to have a bunch of fat asses who would be no more than back ups on upper echelon football teams protecting the most valuable QB in the NFL and closing the very holes they are supposed to open for running backs.



I'm not ready to throw in the towel just yet. We've seen one game so far this season. One. And it happened to be against one of the most dominant (particularly against the run) front sevens in the league. I mean seriously, it doesn't seem fair to criticize our run game too harshly just yet... I need more data.

I don't think we gain a ground game overnight either, but I expect to see gradual improvement as the season progresses. Barring injury, the line will build chemistry. I think Lacy will settle in as well. Personally I'm looking forward to the journey.
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Offline steveishere  
#7 Posted : Tuesday, September 10, 2013 11:36:03 AM(UTC)
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I don't care if they run every play or pass every play as long as they have a good offense. Anyone who expected them to do much on the ground vs SF just wasn't thinking straight. SF has an elite run defense. To be honest we ran the ball better than I expected us to.
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Offline Cheesey  
#8 Posted : Tuesday, September 10, 2013 11:54:22 AM(UTC)
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What bothered me was, "run on 1st down, run on 2nd down, pass on 3rd".
To me, they should use the run as a surprise. Catch the other team off guard.

I haven't given up on Lacy or the run. But i think Mike McCarthy needs to be more creative on how they use it.
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Offline StoicFire  
#9 Posted : Tuesday, September 10, 2013 12:12:32 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Cheesey Go to Quoted Post
What bothered me was, "run on 1st down, run on 2nd down, pass on 3rd".
To me, they should use the run as a surprise. Catch the other team off guard.

I haven't given up on Lacy or the run. But i think Mike McCarthy needs to be more creative on how they use it.


I had mixed feelings about that. On one hand I thought of it as having a low probability for success, and it put Rodgers and company in a tough spot (therefore, bad decision). But on the other hand I thought it was a statement. McCarthy standing behind his words when he declared that the Packers WILL do a better job running the football this year.

So the jury is still out on this one for me. I like the commitment, but the lack of success made the strategy tough to swallow. Then again, the holding penalties really didn't help...
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Offline DoddPower  
#10 Posted : Tuesday, September 10, 2013 12:58:23 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: StoicFire Go to Quoted Post
I had mixed feelings about that. On one hand I thought of it as having a low probability for success, and it put Rodgers and company in a tough spot (therefore, bad decision). But on the other hand I thought it was a statement. McCarthy standing behind his words when he declared that the Packers WILL do a better job running the football this year.

So the jury is still out on this one for me. I like the commitment, but the lack of success made the strategy tough to swallow. Then again, the holding penalties really didn't help...


Yeah, if the running plays worked well, it wouldn't even reach 3rd down every time and if it did, it could have been 3rd and short, giving the offense many options. It wasn't a problem of play calling really, it was more a matter of execution and success.
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