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Offline yooperfan  
#16 Posted : Friday, September 20, 2013 10:14:29 AM(UTC)
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The only way Ted Thompson will be involved in a Joe Thomas deal is if Joe falls out of the sky into Ted's lap with a bow around his neck that says, I play for minimum wage.
It ain't happening!
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#17 Posted : Friday, September 20, 2013 10:14:45 AM(UTC)
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Left Tackle is the second most important position on the team. If talent is available I say go out and get it and worry about the money later. I'd rather pay Joe Thomas than some rookie running back...


Not really. I could agree that offensive line is 2nd most important position group but LT is just 1 spot of that group. A RT that's constantly getting blown up is going to cause just as much disruption as your LT sucking. LT as a position is very overrated. I would rather spread money out along the offensive line as a whole for average/above average players than dish out a ton to 1 elite player. Joe Thomas makes close to Clay Matthews like money but he sure as hell doesn't impact games like Clay does.

Having a top LT would be sweet but I wouldn't want to use too many resources on one.
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#18 Posted : Friday, September 20, 2013 10:44:12 AM(UTC)
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steveishere said: Go to Quoted Post
Not really. I could agree that offensive line is 2nd most important position group but LT is just 1 spot of that group. A RT that's constantly getting blown up is going to cause just as much disruption as your LT sucking. LT as a position is very overrated. I would rather spread money out along the offensive line as a whole for average/above average players than dish out a ton to 1 elite player. Joe Thomas makes close to Clay Matthews like money but he sure as hell doesn't impact games like Clay does.

Having a top LT would be sweet but I wouldn't want to use too many resources on one.


Ya I don't see this likely either. Unless we end up in dire need of a LT and nobody else is fit for the job, you can bet that Ted wouldn't make it happen. Even if the occasion would arise - he would probably look in the bargain basement for a replacement. Personally I just don't think what he brings to the table is enough to sway our GM.
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#19 Posted : Friday, September 20, 2013 10:47:33 AM(UTC)
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yooperfan said: Go to Quoted Post
The only way Ted Thompson will be involved in a Joe Thomas deal is if Joe falls out of the sky into Ted's lap with a bow around his neck that says, I play for minimum wage.
It ain't happening!


Former home town discount? [grin1]
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#20 Posted : Friday, September 20, 2013 11:32:00 AM(UTC)
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dhazer said: Go to Quoted Post
I brought this up in another thread and said give our 1st seeing it would be late 20's, but i don't see Ted Thompson doing this after all h drafted the guys on the line or found them on the waiver wire and thats how he likes it.


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#21 Posted : Friday, September 20, 2013 12:27:50 PM(UTC)
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If Thomas goes anywhere, it would probably be to replace Ryan Clady for the Broncos. Although, that may cause too much trouble next season. But the Broncos should be all in now, imo.
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#22 Posted : Friday, September 20, 2013 3:35:23 PM(UTC)
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The thought of getting Joe Thomas makes me drool. I just don't see Ted Thompson going for it with having to part with draft pick(s), and the contract issues.

spotrac.com said:

Joe Thomas' contract:

............Base Salary.........Cap hit
2013:....10,000,000.......11,400,000
2014:....10,900,000.......12,300,000
2015:.... 8,800,000.......10,200,000
2016:.... 8,300,000....... 9,500,000
2017:.... 8,800,000.......10,000,000
2018:.... 8,800,000.......10,000,000
2019: UFA
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#23 Posted : Friday, September 20, 2013 6:35:55 PM(UTC)
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texaspackerbacker said: Go to Quoted Post
This seems like the kind of situation Ted Thompson just tunes out of - case closed. I would absolutely love for the Packers to get Joe Thomas for a reasonable price, but I really don't think it is gonna happen. It would be an absolute damn shame if some other team needing O Line help got him - the Bears for example.


What is a reasonable price? It happens every time a big name becomes available. You start to see comments like "We should go after him if he is cheap enough." well, I can assure you Joe Thomas will not be cheap. He won't be had for a first rounder like Richardson (I know you threw in Bulaga and the case of Miller) but I don't think that would even be enough.

If they start a fire sale and get rid of guys like Gordon and Thomas they might as well figure its a 5 year plan at least.
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#24 Posted : Friday, September 20, 2013 9:45:40 PM(UTC)
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What is a reasonable price? It happens every time a big name becomes available. You start to see comments like "We should go after him if he is cheap enough." well, I can assure you Joe Thomas will not be cheap. He won't be had for a first rounder like Richardson (I know you threw in Bulaga and the case of Miller) but I don't think that would even be enough.

If they start a fire sale and get rid of guys like Gordon and Thomas they might as well figure its a 5 year plan at least.


The "Bulaga and a case of Miller" thing was from Dakota's post, not mine hahahahaha. To me, reasonable is our first round pick plus one or more additional draft picks - 1st, 3rd, and 5th for example.

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#25 Posted : Friday, September 20, 2013 10:45:01 PM(UTC)
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Joe Thomas will be 29 this December. While I would absolutely welcome him in green and gold, I wouldn't bet on the Packers parting with a first-round pick for him. I could see a team dangling a player and a two for him. This does sound like speculation and not actual reporting, though. If the Browns are serious about landing a franchise QB in next year's draft, then having Thomas around to protect his blindside would be a major asset.
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#26 Posted : Saturday, September 21, 2013 12:04:02 AM(UTC)
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I don't see the Browns getting rid of Joe Thomas for just a 1st. I think they didn't think Richardson was as good as his hype and/or they could replace him rather easily.


Though some other Browns players that might be helpful (though I don't think they'd be willing to trade more of them)

OLB Jabaal Sheard
CB Joe Haden
WR Josh Gordon
S T. J. Ward
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#27 Posted : Saturday, September 21, 2013 5:12:51 AM(UTC)
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Actually, I like David Bakhtiari. I think he will be fine developing alongside Josh Sitton. He's played two games, one against one of the top pass rushes in all of football and he played admirably.

If we need a player via midseason trade, it is a veteran, top tier Safety.
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#28 Posted : Saturday, September 21, 2013 6:54:47 AM(UTC)
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Actually, I like David Bakhtiari. I think he will be fine developing alongside Josh Sitton. He's played two games, one against one of the top pass rushes in all of football and he played admirably.

If we need a player via midseason trade, it is a veteran, top tier Safety.


How cool would it be if Bacteria was the answer we've been looking for since 2 years before Clifton retired.
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#29 Posted : Saturday, September 21, 2013 7:57:33 AM(UTC)
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texaspackerbacker said: Go to Quoted Post
The "Bulaga and a case of Miller" thing was from Dakota's post, not mine hahahahaha. To me, reasonable is our first round pick plus one or more additional draft picks - 1st, 3rd, and 5th for example.



Sorry, got it mixed up. Besides, I think the case of Miller would be a deal breaker. Make it Leinenkugels and they might go for it, especially their new "Hoppin Helles"

A first and a fifth, Yeah, I could maybe see that, I don't know if Cleveland would. 1st and 3rd, now you are getting close to too much. Anything more than that, no way. As others have said, he is 29 and while he is as close to a guarantee as you can get they could take and LT at both those spots and hope to get lucky. I know, I know hope don't get you much, especially looking at their track record on the OL, but they could also package those two picks on draft day and move up to get a better prospect. I know that's still a risk but since you would be getting a younger player I think that would be the more likely route for Ted Thompson to take than to trade.

Also, like others have pointed out, if you are looking for a franchise QB why would you trade away his best protection to get him. Trade away Thomas and you have to spend a high round pick to replace him (in theory) well, you don't have that high round pick because you just traded them all away to get your franchise QB.
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#30 Posted : Saturday, September 21, 2013 8:09:03 AM(UTC)
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I don't see the Browns getting rid of Joe Thomas for just a 1st. I think they didn't think Richardson was as good as his hype and/or they could replace him rather easily.


Though some other Browns players that might be helpful (though I don't think they'd be willing to trade more of them)

OLB Jabaal Sheard
CB Joe Haden
WR Josh Gordon
S T. J. Ward


I thought I had posted on this but maybe it was on another board or something. I would love to see someone like Gordon. It would make the loss of Jame Jones next year much easier to take. and with a great QB like rodgers he could easily be a top 5 WR. He may be a character risk sure but as so many people like to think, Green Bay is the place to go to fix things like that. I wouldn't mind Haden either.

Still, something tells me these guys are not going anywhere unless the current regime is hell bent on putting their mark on this team. Like so many who think the Colts screwed the pooch on this one RBs are easier to replace than those other guys.
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