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Offline Zero2Cool  
#31 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 9:03:53 AM(UTC)
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Packers dominate the Bears, except with Aaron Rodgers at the helm, they are 0 - 2 on Monday Night Football.

uh - oh


I hope they rest James Jones. You know why too.
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#32 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 9:44:18 AM(UTC)
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Tezzy said: Go to Quoted Post
Marshall and Jeffery can both go up and get jump balls. That right there is why I always cringe playing against Cutler, even though we have the record to say otherwise against him. He is willing to just chuck it up and let the WR make a play, and they can. I do think the Trestman offense is more tailored to be able to succeed with a backup like Josh, so I don't expect their offense to be neutered by much. Like our focus so many games this year, stuff the run and go from there.

The Bears defense, just having problems in so many areas. Their front 4 have not been getting it done, and I would like it to stay that way. Really don't want to see Peppers have the game of his season on Monday. Some fresh faces at LB, but that's what they drafted for, so could actually be a bright spot with the upgraded youth. Outside of Tillman, their backend is very beatable, and I look for Rodgers to have a stat padding kind of night that would make Nerdmann proud.

All said and done:
Packers - 34
Bears - 20



I agree with everything you said (I should since you basically agreed with me hahahaha) EXCEPT: Correct me if I'm wrong, it's LUKE not JOSH - McCown I mean. Aw, what's the diff? You seen one McCown, you seen 'em all.
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#33 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 1:31:18 PM(UTC)
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Tezzy said: Go to Quoted Post
Marshall and Jeffery can both go up and get jump balls. That right there is why I always cringe playing against Cutler, even though we have the record to say otherwise against him. He is willing to just chuck it up and let the WR make a play, and they can. I do think the Trestman offense is more tailored to be able to succeed with a backup like Josh, so I don't expect their offense to be neutered by much. Like our focus so many games this year, stuff the run and go from there.

The Bears defense, just having problems in so many areas. Their front 4 have not been getting it done, and I would like it to stay that way. Really don't want to see Peppers have the game of his season on Monday. Some fresh faces at LB, but that's what they drafted for, so could actually be a bright spot with the upgraded youth. Outside of Tillman, their backend is very beatable, and I look for Rodgers to have a stat padding kind of night that would make Nerdmann proud.

All said and done:
Packers - 34
Bears - 20



Don't forget about the 6'6 tight end M. Bennett, either. That guys having a solid season . . . finally.
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#34 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 2:40:01 PM(UTC)
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DoddPower said: Go to Quoted Post
Don't forget about the 6'6 tight end M. Bennett, either. That guys having a solid season . . . finally.


Very true, the Black Unicorn is a huge addition to their offense. Bears should never fail scoring TDs in the red zone with all those huge targets.
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#35 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 2:46:29 PM(UTC)
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texaspackerbacker said: Go to Quoted Post
I agree with everything you said (I should since you basically agreed with me hahahaha) EXCEPT: Correct me if I'm wrong, it's LUKE not JOSH - McCown I mean. Aw, what's the diff? You seen one McCown, you seen 'em all.


You are right about McCown's all look the same to me. It is Josh though, and the only reason I know for sure (other than hearing on Chicago radio every day) is that he looks just like Ivan Drago. That's how you can keep the McCown's, you know, if you are ever kidnapped and the only chance for release is if you can Name That McCown.

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#36 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 9:22:46 PM(UTC)
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Tezzy said: Go to Quoted Post
Very true, the Black Unicorn is a huge addition to their offense. Bears should never fail scoring TDs in the red zone with all those huge targets.


They have a bunch of monsters, for sure.
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#37 Posted : Friday, November 1, 2013 2:26:05 PM(UTC)
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wpr said: Go to Quoted Post
yerko my son heads out to one of the Packer bars and watches the games. lots of fans there.


Is it the grand one of them all, Wills Northwoods Inn? I have yet to go there but would like to one weekend. I've been spoiled by free Sunday Ticket this year so I don't have to trek out to a Packers bar but when I did, it was to a smaller one in Elmhurst, Il.
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#38 Posted : Friday, November 1, 2013 6:09:25 PM(UTC)
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wpr said: Go to Quoted Post
It all depends on your perspective. South of the cheeseland border beating to Bears even if they are hapless is much better than beating the vikies even if that win is for the division title.

The crap I get from Bears fans even from grandmas is ridiculous. A couple of wins a year keeps them quiet. I have not heard a whisper since the Bears began their annual hibernation.



I totally understand and I'm sure the majority of Packers fans would rather beat the Bears than the vikings. Its just that I grew up football throw (unless you have Ponders arm) from viking territory and vikings fans are insufferable. Besides, I have another reason for hating the vikings.

I don't have a huge knowledge of the NFL but I do know enough to know that George Hallas, among others of course, was instrumental in developing the NFL and because of that I have a lot of respect for the organization and the history.

The vikings are puny upstarts who deserve every beat down that they get.

Besides I get a kick out of all my Bears fans friends who hate it when they can't rub a Bears victory in my face.


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#39 Posted : Friday, November 1, 2013 6:12:25 PM(UTC)
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texaspackerbacker said: Go to Quoted Post
hahaha It's a bad thing for their defense. For some odd reason (maybe because of that game you mentioned), Cutler scares me just a little bit with his potential to explode/get inspired/whatever - even though it would be unlikely to happen. I'm more comfortable with a low-ceiling career backup like McCown in there. I bet he throws a couple to our guys.


So you are not one of those "we gotta beat em with their best guys on the field or we don't really beat em" kinda guys.

You know, those guys that are full of shit.

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#40 Posted : Friday, November 1, 2013 9:05:04 PM(UTC)
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I totally understand and I'm sure the majority of Packers fans would rather beat the Bears than the vikings. Its just that I grew up football throw (unless you have Ponders arm) from viking territory and vikings fans are insufferable. Besides, I have another reason for hating the vikings.

I don't have a huge knowledge of the NFL but I do know enough to know that George Hallas, among others of course, was instrumental in developing the NFL and because of that I have a lot of respect for the organization and the history.

The vikings are puny upstarts who deserve every beat down that they get.

Besides I get a kick out of all my Bears fans friends who hate it when they can't rub a Bears victory in my face.




I can appreciate this. I have a lot of respect for what Papa George did for the game as a whole AND for the Packers. Without him there might not even be a GBP. That said there are enough insufferable louts that try and grind my face in the ground because I dare to follow GB that I would not mind it if Chicago lost every game for the next 100 years. They can be beyond boorish behavior. I am sure there are just as many in MN I just don't see them week end and week out 52 weeks a year.
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#41 Posted : Friday, November 1, 2013 9:36:14 PM(UTC)
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Tezzy said: Go to Quoted Post
Marshall and Jeffery can both go up and get jump balls. That right there is why I always cringe playing against Cutler, even though we have the record to say otherwise against him. He is willing to just chuck it up and let the WR make a play, and they can. I do think the Trestman offense is more tailored to be able to succeed with a backup like Josh, so I don't expect their offense to be neutered by much. Like our focus so many games this year, stuff the run and go from there.


True, but Cutler is also willing to just chuck it up there and lett he DB make a plays as well, if I'm reading the stats right, Cutler throw 1 TD and 4 INTs in his last two match-ups with the Packers. ThumpUp
I think Woodson loved to play against Cutler for that reason.

As for Josh McCown, he might not be as talented as Cutler but he might be a better overall fit for Trestman offense because he's safer with the ball.

Both Cutler and McCown started one game against the Packers in 2011

09/25/2011 Cutler was 21 of 37 (56.8%) for 302 yards, 2 TD, 2 INT, 3 sacks, 3 rushes for 11 yards.

12/25/2011 (Christmas game) McCown was 19 of 28 (67.9%) for 242 yards with 1 TD and 2 INT, 0 sacks, also 8 runs for 38 yards


Cutler had one more TD, but McCown had a better %, advoided sacks and could run better. I'd say McCown had the better game numbers wise and they scored a couple more points under him than with Cutler.

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#42 Posted : Friday, November 1, 2013 10:15:55 PM(UTC)
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It is a unique fan base in this area (NE Iowa.) Most of the people here are Packers, Vikings, and Bears fans - and the Chicago fan base has grown a lot in the past few years with many moving from Illinois to get away from inner city life.

That aside, I can't really expect the Bears to be a huge challenge given they don't seem to have the depth to overcome the injury situation. No team wants to play the Pack with their starting QB out - don't blame them.

I see us dominating on both sides of the ball with Lacy having a big game - 120 yards and 2 TDs. Nelson and Boykin both have a big game, each finding the end zone. Rodgers goes 29 of 34 throws 3 touchdowns with 290 yards. Defense plays strong through 3 quarters with 3 turnovers and gives up points with soft coverage in garbage time.

Packers win 41-20
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#43 Posted : Saturday, November 2, 2013 6:29:10 PM(UTC)
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Bears sign DT Jay Ratliff
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#44 Posted : Sunday, November 3, 2013 6:17:54 AM(UTC)
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NFL Network reports Ratliffe won't be active this week.

Cutler has had bad games against us but mostly because he tries to force to much...something he has done for years in Chicago with no weapons and terrible OC's to go with his bad line. This year the line is better and he's got Marshall, Bennet and Jeffrey in addition to Forte. Cutler being out hurts them but they hve a smart, offensive-minded coach who can make due with backup, especially against a secondary that still has a lot of coverage lapses.

The issue for the Bears is that they injury plague has finally hit their defense and they have no beef up the middle, just when we have a running game going. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see us rack up 200 on the ground Monday night. In addition, their secondary hits hard and forces turnovers but they aren't especially good in coverage, something that will hurt them defensing in the red zone. ESPECIALLY if the pass rush is worn down from a 12 or 14 play drive like the ones last week.

I see the Packers getting 8 posessions and scoring like six times. If both teams were fully healthy I would say it would be close but I see this one going like 34-20
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#45 Posted : Sunday, November 3, 2013 8:29:01 PM(UTC)
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I wish there was some some of season scenarios generator where you could pick the games and see how it would effect the standings. They do have some for the playoffs, but they all seem to start in week 13 and not go the whole season.

So to figure out what would happen in playoff stuff you have to go figure out the hard way (reading the rules and researching how things would come out).



So if the Packers beat the Bears, then the Packers will have tie breakers (at least for now) over the whole NFC North and on top of having a two game lead on the Bears and one game lead on the Lions.


BUT if the Packers lose to the Bea... Bea... lose to... THEM... then there would be a 3 way tie for the NFC North. And going to the division tie breakers rules, they would be tied for the top 3 tie breakers. Going to the 4th one... where the Lions would then have the best record in the NFC (Packers currently have the best record of the 3 in the NFC but a lost Monday would give it to the Lions for now). And Bears would then have the head to head win over the Packers...


Long story short, Packers are playing for 1st or 3rd... Bears are playing for 2nd or 3rd and Lions are going to be 1st or 2nd.

NFL.com said:
1) Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games among the clubs).
2) Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3) Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4) Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
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