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Offline DoddPower  
#31 Posted : Friday, November 1, 2013 12:40:02 PM(UTC)
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Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
So you have a better chance of winning if you're not even in the dance? I think it's quite clear if you're there all the time it improves your chances. Bills were four times within 60 minutes of winning. Had they not made the playoffs, they don't get that close at all.

Mr. Obvious as spoken.


Exceptions also don't prove or dispute any "norms," either. One field goal could have made a huge difference for the Bills. Most teams would love to be able to say that.
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#32 Posted : Friday, November 1, 2013 12:42:01 PM(UTC)
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Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
So you have a better chance of winning if you're not even in the dance? I think it's quite clear if you're there all the time it improves your chances. Bills were four times within 60 minutes of winning. Had they not made the playoffs, they don't get that close at all.

Mr. Obvious as spoken.


RollEyes

I see you are no good with the high levels of math that are involved to solve this equation.

The quote was
Quote:
The more times you get there, the more likely you are to win it all.
4 times there with 4 failures is still zero. The same percent as if they had just stayed home. If you add all the other times the vickies were in the playoffs and failed it is still zero.
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#33 Posted : Friday, November 1, 2013 12:44:14 PM(UTC)
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DoddPower said: Go to Quoted Post
Exceptions also don't prove or dispute any "norms," either. One field goal could have made a huge difference for the Bills. Most teams would love to be able to say that.


SIGH. I am only picking on the vikings here. I am not saying Uncle Teddy is a failure or anything like that. Just smile and move along or simply say nothing at all.
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#34 Posted : Friday, November 1, 2013 12:46:21 PM(UTC)
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RollEyes

I see you are no good with the high levels of math that are involved to solve this equation.

The quote was 4 times there with 4 failures is still zero. The same percent as if they had just stayed home. If you add all the other times the vickies were in the playoffs and failed it is still zero.


To be fair, the quote said the more times a team gets there, the more LIKELY they are to win it. Doesn't mean they actually will, but the chances are greater than if they never made it there in the first place. All probability.
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#35 Posted : Friday, November 1, 2013 12:47:30 PM(UTC)
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I have no problem with resigning current players. It is a good move on Ted's part to do so.


I think his point was that no one seems to want to count these guys as free agent signings when they are.


EDIT oops, disregard the post, I didn't see steveishere's reply in which he already pointed out his point. Cant delete posts I guess.
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#36 Posted : Friday, November 1, 2013 1:07:50 PM(UTC)
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DoddPower said: Go to Quoted Post
I wanted Steven Jackson, but he has basically been a complete bust so far in ATL. Eddie Lacy has been the MUCH better player. Jackson quickly got hurt, and has taken forever to heal. When he came back last week, he didn't look effective . . . at all. Yet another great move by Ted Thompson, even if Jackson comes on a little bit later in the season. I still can't imagine him being as good as Lacy, and certainly not better.


But you can't automatically assume that had we signed SJ that he would have gotten hurt or been ineffective. Each team represents a different...Oh who am I kidding. If we would have landed Jackson he would have pulled a hammy just like everyone else.
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#37 Posted : Friday, November 1, 2013 1:14:36 PM(UTC)
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Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
So you have a better chance of winning if you're not even in the dance? I think it's quite clear if you're there all the time it improves your chances. Bills were four times within 60 minutes of winning. Had they not made the playoffs, they don't get that close at all.

Mr. Obvious as spoken.



IMO the Bills do not even come close to the vikings in terms of SB suckage. The Bills were in the SB 4 years in a row. No team in football will ever do that again. No team in baseball will ever do that again. Basketball? Hockey? maybe but who the hell cares it's basketball and hockey.

The vikings had a chance and didn't get it done, then they couldn't get back for a while and when they finally did they STILL couldn't get it done.

Of course some people might think the Bills plight was worse but then again IMO no team will ever approach the vikings in terms of suckage so I may be a bit biased against them.


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#38 Posted : Friday, November 1, 2013 4:36:20 PM(UTC)
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DoddPower said: Go to Quoted Post
I wanted Steven Jackson, but he has basically been a complete bust so far in ATL. Eddie Lacy has been the MUCH better player. Jackson quickly got hurt, and has taken forever to heal. When he came back last week, he didn't look effective . . . at all. Yet another great move by Ted Thompson, even if Jackson comes on a little bit later in the season. I still can't imagine him being as good as Lacy, and certainly not better.


I think all of us were disappointed we didn't get Jackson if I can recall the thread. I think this may have been a fortunate miss on our part, as I do believe we were in contention.
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#39 Posted : Friday, November 1, 2013 5:38:36 PM(UTC)
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I think all of us were disappointed we didn't get Jackson if I can recall the thread. I think this may have been a fortunate miss on our part, as I do believe we were in contention.


I was more disappointed that we didn't get Lynch.
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#40 Posted : Friday, November 1, 2013 5:57:20 PM(UTC)
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I think all of us were disappointed we didn't get Jackson if I can recall the thread. I think this may have been a fortunate miss on our part, as I do believe we were in contention.


It seems like a lot of reports were saying SJ was not seriously considering us but that he was just using us as a bargaining chip.

If we do land Jackson does that automatically mean that we pass on Lacy? If Ted Thompson truly had him as the best player on his list and if he did fall that far it is not totally inconceivable that he would have drafted Lacy anyway. Ted Thompson has been known to draft players that have fallen more than they probably should have even when the need for that position wasn't dire. At least one comes to mind and I think everyone is happy that he did.
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#41 Posted : Friday, November 1, 2013 7:19:50 PM(UTC)
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RollEyes

I see you are no good with the high levels of math that are involved to solve this equation.

The quote was 4 times there with 4 failures is still zero. The same percent as if they had just stayed home. If you add all the other times the vickies were in the playoffs and failed it is still zero.


....

ur logic sucks
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#42 Posted : Friday, November 1, 2013 7:30:00 PM(UTC)
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sschind said: Go to Quoted Post
But you can't automatically assume that had we signed SJ that he would have gotten hurt or been ineffective.


Why not, because the Packers have been oh so injury free this season?
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#43 Posted : Friday, November 1, 2013 8:57:14 PM(UTC)
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DoddPower said: Go to Quoted Post
To be fair, the quote said the more times a team gets there, the more LIKELY they are to win it. Doesn't mean they actually will, but the chances are greater than if they never made it there in the first place. All probability.


Yes. Thank you for pointing this out. Without your help I would have totally missed it.

Actually I know what the original post was all about. I was only trying to beat down on the vikings a little.

What I fail to understand is why no one seems to understand and continues to act like I can't grasp the concept although I have repeatedly acknowledged my comprehension of its meaning. But please someone explain it to my one more time just to be sure. RollEyes
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#44 Posted : Friday, November 1, 2013 8:58:19 PM(UTC)
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I think all of us were disappointed we didn't get Jackson if I can recall the thread. I think this may have been a fortunate miss on our part, as I do believe we were in contention.


nope. I thought a trade for Jackson would be to expensive and his best days were behind him.
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#45 Posted : Saturday, November 2, 2013 4:11:42 AM(UTC)
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nope. I thought a trade for Jackson would be to expensive and his best days were behind him.


Jackson was a Free Agent.

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