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Offline nerdmann  
#16 Posted : Monday, November 4, 2013 10:20:08 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: beast Go to Quoted Post
I find it interesting how it's always blame Capers...


The defense might of played poorly but they only gave up 24 points and that's with missing 3 of the top 4 OLBers, players not making key tackles, CBs that seem to be afraid of going head ot head with the WRs, and the Packers best defense weapon against the Bears (Cutler was injured, so no INTs) which all of that is not the coach's fault.

And Neal and some of the DL where CLEARLY gassed and tired because they offense could get them a rest (nor could Neal really sub out for a rest).

Capers has been using tricks like inside and DB blitzed to force the nickel packages hold up... the Bears were able to plug the middle and the WRs made plays when they blitzed from the outside, simple put the Bears stopped the tricks.


The only things I could see that the Defense might of been able to try (not saying they would of worked, heck these could of been worse than what they tried).


~ Keep the base defense out there for the passing downs and asked Raji and Jolly to pass rush (not sure this is a good idea, they would get even more tired).

~ Ask Datone Jones to play some OLB (personally I thought they should have been getting him some practice snaps there since both Matthews and Perry were down and if he was good (which I think he would be, then get him in the games there).


~ Go to the 4-2-5 and ask some of the DTs to play 4-3 DE to give Neal and the other a breather.


I'm always defending the D, blaming everything on Mike and Aaron's stat whoring.

But the D shit themselves today, right when we needed them to step up. Disappointing.
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Offline Gaycandybacon  
#17 Posted : Monday, November 4, 2013 10:27:42 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: beast Go to Quoted Post
I find it interesting how it's always blame Capers...


The defense might of played poorly but they only gave up 24 points and that's with missing 3 of the top 4 OLBers, players not making key tackles, CBs that seem to be afraid of going head ot head with the WRs, and the Packers best defense weapon against the Bears (Cutler was injured, so no INTs) which all of that is not the coach's fault.

And Neal and some of the DL where CLEARLY gassed and tired because they offense could get them a rest (nor could Neal really sub out for a rest).

Capers has been using tricks like inside and DB blitzed to force the nickel packages hold up... the Bears were able to plug the middle and the WRs made plays when they blitzed from the outside, simple put the Bears stopped the tricks.


The only things I could see that the Defense might of been able to try (not saying they would of worked, heck these could of been worse than what they tried).


~ Keep the base defense out there for the passing downs and asked Raji and Jolly to pass rush (not sure this is a good idea, they would get even more tired).

~ Ask Datone Jones to play some OLB (personally I thought they should have been getting him some practice snaps there since both Matthews and Perry were down and if he was good (which I think he would be, then get him in the games there).


~ Go to the 4-2-5 and ask some of the DTs to play 4-3 DE to give Neal and the other a breather.


Any qb can gash you if you can't rush the passer. Injuries caught up to us in this game. Palmer and Mulumba are pretty good run defenders, but they can't really rush the passer that well. Neal is struggling in his full time role, hasn't looked the same in some time. We stoped the run pretty damn well early in the game, but since they kept moving the ball passing they pretty much could do anything. If we had one or both Matthews and Perry we have a good chance to win even without Rodgers. I'm not blaming it on anyone, everyone had a bad night except the special teams and Running game. But when you can't convert 3rd downs passing or can't rush the passer you're gonna lose.

I agree with Datone Jones. He's been playing better these past few weeks, they even stood him up a couple times as a spy. They should think about, (like you said) playing snaps for him at OLB.

The strength of this defense is the defensive line, and when you can push them around, you can do things against this defense.
Offline steveishere  
#18 Posted : Monday, November 4, 2013 10:32:36 PM(UTC)
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I think no matter who is playing or injured Capers is good at scheming blitz pressures but completely horrible at scheming coverages. The only time there ever isn't some wide open hole with no defender around for 20 yards is when it's straight man to man across the board and you can't really do that on every play. It's like he just has the d-line play the run and everyone else is just backyard football do whatever you want.
Offline DoddPower  
#19 Posted : Tuesday, November 5, 2013 12:00:32 AM(UTC)
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The hate on Ted Thompson is silly. He makes mistakes, and needs to be called on them. Fair enough. But if the Packers were healthy, they would be one of, if not THE best, team in the NFL. Even with all the injuries, they still compete. That's impressive.

It's hard to win games with multiple 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th string players playing. I think the Packers would have won this game even without Rodgers if the rest of the team was still relatively healthy. There's only so much a 53 man roster can endure, and it's officially caught up to the Packers now.
Offline Mr_Bumpy  
#20 Posted : Tuesday, November 5, 2013 1:30:47 AM(UTC)
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The other thing is, the defense was on the field all damn game. The offense couldn't move the ball. Do you really expect the defense to be able to play as long as the Packer defense did and maintain a high level of play?
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Offline sschind  
#21 Posted : Tuesday, November 5, 2013 7:20:32 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DoddPower Go to Quoted Post
The hate on Ted Thompson is silly. He makes mistakes, and needs to be called on them. Fair enough. But if the Packers were healthy, they would be one of, if not THE best, team in the NFL. Even with all the injuries, they still compete. That's impressive.

It's hard to win games with multiple 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th string players playing. I think the Packers would have won this game even without Rodgers if the rest of the team was still relatively healthy. There's only so much a 53 man roster can endure, and it's officially caught up to the Packers now.


All of this is true but the other side is also true. They may have still lost this game even with Rodgers.

No one is giving the Bears any credit for this win and it is one reason why so many Bears fans hate the Packers (and Packers fans) Of course it a fan thing and it applies to every team on both sides of the equation.

The Bears had 2 weeks to prep and they did a great job. Yes, our team played like crap but theirs played very well (besides their run defense)

If I see one more post blaming the refs for missing holding calls I'm going to puke. I saw the Packers get away with quite a few myself. They were letting them play and I liked it.

It was a frustrating loss and the potential loss of Rodgers is even worse but don't make yourselves sound like a bunch of pussies blaming injuries and the refs. Don't forget the bears were down Cutler and Briggs and McCown is not exactly a stellar backup. We sure made him look like one though.

Our team played poorly in most aspects of the game and it hurt but their team played well in most aspects of the game and that hurt just as much and the refs did what refs do in every game. They screw up on both sides of the ball.

Take it like a man. Hell even my 10 year old nephew had enough class not to rub it in.
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#22 Posted : Tuesday, November 5, 2013 7:27:48 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DoddPower Go to Quoted Post
The hate on Ted Thompson is silly. He makes mistakes, and needs to be called on them. Fair enough. But if the Packers were healthy, they would be one of, if not THE best, team in the NFL. Even with all the injuries, they still compete. That's impressive.

It's hard to win games with multiple 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th string players playing. I think the Packers would have won this game even without Rodgers if the rest of the team was still relatively healthy. There's only so much a 53 man roster can endure, and it's officially caught up to the Packers now.


The hate on Thompson IS justified and long overdue. Yeah, we won games with poor quality personnel - BECAUSE OF AARON RODGERS!

It is inexcusable that he left the Packers with no backup other than this lemon, Wallace - after cutting 3 who would have at least given us a chance even with the sub-standard O Line and the shaky D.

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Offline texaspackerbacker  
#23 Posted : Tuesday, November 5, 2013 7:32:18 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: sschind Go to Quoted Post
All of this is true but the other side is also true. They may have still lost this game even with Rodgers.

No one is giving the Bears any credit for this win and it is one reason why so many Bears fans hate the Packers (and Packers fans) Of course it a fan thing and it applies to every team on both sides of the equation.

The Bears had 2 weeks to prep and they did a great job. Yes, our team played like crap but theirs played very well (besides their run defense)

If I see one more post blaming the refs for missing holding calls I'm going to puke. I saw the Packers get away with quite a few myself. They were letting them play and I liked it.

It was a frustrating loss and the potential loss of Rodgers is even worse but don't make yourselves sound like a bunch of pussies blaming injuries and the refs. Don't forget the bears were down Cutler and Briggs and McCown is not exactly a stellar backup. We sure made him look like one though.

Our team played poorly in most aspects of the game and it hurt but their team played well in most aspects of the game and that hurt just as much and the refs did what refs do in every game. They screw up on both sides of the ball.

Take it like a man. Hell even my 10 year old nephew had enough class not to rub it in.


If Rodgers hadn't gotten hurt, we would have beaten the damn Bears about 51-27. Yeah, THEIR backup QB played like a pro; Yeah, THEIR O Line got rebuilt in one year from bad to credible, but even on a bad night for our D, we would have outscored them.

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Offline steveishere  
#24 Posted : Tuesday, November 5, 2013 7:58:50 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker Go to Quoted Post
The hate on Thompson IS justified and long overdue. Yeah, we won games with poor quality personnel - BECAUSE OF AARON RODGERS!

It is inexcusable that he left the Packers with no backup other than this lemon, Wallace - after cutting 3 who would have at least given us a chance even with the sub-standard O Line and the shaky D.



That's such a crock of shit. There's not a single team right now that thinks any of those guys is even good enough to be a 3rd string QB.
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